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Re: Finding an Alternative to Mac OS X

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Post by Matthias247 »

Clubber wrote: post #12

>Note that I don’t currently consider Windows a viable alternative. For the work that I do (Rails) and tools I use something *nix based is the best choice for me. For what it's worth Windows 10 now has a bash shell based on Ubuntu available. http://www.howtogeek.com/249966/how-to-install-and-use-the-l...

As an alternative to WSL docker for windows is also very helpful.

I use it to spin up linux images that contain all the devtools that I need, and mount files/code from windows in there. For a terminal just enter the image with exec /bin/sh. To get a consistent experience I also use msys bash (which is bundled with git for windows) for terminal use on windows. With that setup entering and exiting linux containers feels very similar to on OSX.

The downside of docker for windows is that you need HyperV activated, which weans VirtualBox no longer works. The older boot2docker solution worked together with VirtualBox - however it didn't support filesharing between windows and docker containers, so there's unfortunately a tradeoff.

Re: Finding an Alternative to Mac OS X

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Post by tluyben2 »

tehwalrus wrote: post #124
tluyben2 wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slightly offtopic; I worry about Window managers... Too much, I admit but it's such a difference in productivity for me . Is there a good i3/ratpoison alternative for Mac OS X or Windows? I think I have tried all that came up with Google and they are far less efficient than both of the above.

I use Amathyst on Mac, having got used to AwesomeWM and then needing to switch. I believe its (unfamiliar to me) key bindings are based on i3. https://github.com/ianyh/Amethyst

Thanks. I do not know that one. Installing now.

Re: Finding an Alternative to Mac OS X

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Post by jawngee »

ericjang wrote: post #4

Another path you can take: build your own desktop and install a Hackintosh OS! Here's my build ( http://pcpartpicker.com/list/pYWQMp ), which runs into some driver issues but can be fixed with Kext utility. This setup allows me to do CUDA programming + Deep Learning stuff natively in OSX, while having access to pretty Mac software. It's great, I highly recommend it!

I've done the same and it's a great way to go. If you stick with known components in known configurations, it's easy to get working. Relatively anyways.

Re: Finding an Alternative to Mac OS X

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Post by indeyets »

thesmallestcat wrote: post #107
sudhirj wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use conemu with WSL... it's the best one available for Windows, but it still pales in comparison to the default macOS terminal, and even the one that ships with Elementary. The customziation, tabs, layout, fonts all work fine but seem a bit bolted on.

I feel the need to point out that what "ships" with elementaryOS is basically meaningless. You can install what you want, easily, and the default configuration is a recommendation. Welcome to Linux-land. https://www.distrowatch.com/

isn't it the same on any OS? :-/

you can install what you want on macOS and you can install what you want on Windows. Both have custom terminal apps

Re: Finding an Alternative to Mac OS X

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Post by ourcat »

z1mm32m4n wrote: post #126

Many articles about wanting to leave the macOS ecosystem mention Sketch. Sketch is macOS only (and will be for the forseeable future), so it's understandable that people want to consider the implications of switching away from it. Recently, however, I stumbled upon Figma, a web-based, real-time collaborative interface design app (i.e., a competitor of Sketch). After convincing my group to experiment with it for a sch…

I've never really understood why people use Sketch. I recently worked on a project where I had asked for some basic vanilla templates of a mobile site from the designers and was sent a huge Sketch file. It was utterly useless and I had to code everything by hand myself, since the 'designers' very clearly had zero clue about HTML+CSS or any notion of responsiveness, thanks to apps like Sketch which teach nothing of the knowledge required to be a useful part of anyone's app/site building process.

Re: Finding an Alternative to Mac OS X

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Post by INTPenis »

I had the same prejudice about Fedora and RedHat back when I was a debian fanboy. But if you look at what Redhat is doing with their money and their company then you soon realize that Redhat Inc. not only IS a large part of the Linux community, but also supports the open source movement in many ways.

So Fedora has been my main distro of choice for a couple years now. I still hesitate to order RHEL licenses at work, unless the client specifically has a good argument for choosing RHEL I tend to lean them towards CentOS.

And I can speak from 12 years of professional sysadmin experience in BSD and Linux that yum or dnf is a very stable package manager.

I've had more issues on Debian 6,7,8 than I've ever had on CentOS or Fedora.

Re: Finding an Alternative to Mac OS X

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Post by dorian-graph »

ourcat wrote: post #145
z1mm32m4n wrote: post #126

Many articles about wanting to leave the macOS ecosystem mention Sketch. Sketch is macOS only (and will be for the forseeable future), so it's understandable that people want to consider the implications of switching away from it. Recently, however, I stumbled upon Figma, a web-based, real-time collaborative interface design app (i.e., a competitor of Sketch). After convincing my group to experiment with it for a sch…

I've never really understood why people use Sketch. I recently worked on a project where I had asked for some basic vanilla templates of a mobile site from the designers and was sent a huge Sketch file. It was utterly useless and I had to code everything by hand myself, since the 'designers' very clearly had zero clue about HTML+CSS or any notion of responsiveness, thanks to apps like Sketch which teach nothing of th…

To clarify, you're basing your whole not understanding why people use Sketch based just on your experience that you mentioned?

Re: Finding an Alternative to Mac OS X

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Post by kqr »

INTPenis wrote: post #146

I had the same prejudice about Fedora and RedHat back when I was a debian fanboy. But if you look at what Redhat is doing with their money and their company then you soon realize that Redhat Inc. not only IS a large part of the Linux community, but also supports the open source movement in many ways. So Fedora has been my main distro of choice for a couple years now. I still hesitate to order RHEL licenses at work, u…

I agree. My impression of RHEL and its likes is that they are "slow and outdated", but the more actual research I do, the more I feel like using them for their stability and security.

Re: Finding an Alternative to Mac OS X

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Post by lucaspiller »

m45t3r wrote: post #136
khazhou wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, except that OSX's iterm2+Karabiner is so much better than any terminal on Linux. Awesome full-screen switching (⌘-Enter), easy shortcuts to create subwindows, natural clipboard support, great keyboard compatibility with Emacs (after futzing with keyboard settings and Karabiner mappings). On Ubuntu, all of these have been lacking. Hell, I can't even use the terminal for a single session without accidentally trig…

> Awesome full-screen switching (⌘-Enter), easy shortcuts to create subwindows, natural clipboard support, great keyboard compatibility with Emacs (after futzing with keyboard settings and Karabiner mappings). Except for "natural clipboard support" (dunno what you mean) and "Emacs" (I am a vim user, so I set up vim shortcuts) I have everything you said in my i3 setup, however for every application instead only for te…

> "natural clipboard support" (dunno what you mean)

I'd assume the author means the same shortcuts as every other app, which would be Ctrl-C/V on Linux. Obviously that wouldn't work in the terminal emulator, but I don't see why you can't remap it to Meta-C/V (as MacOS uses) for that.

You could even remap it globally: http://askubuntu.com/questions/102846/remapping-keyboard-sho...

Re: Finding an Alternative to Mac OS X

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Post by fbnlsr »

I've been using Xubuntu on my Macbook Air in a VM and it feels amazing. It gets the job done and I really like the UI.

elementaryos is perfect for a MacOS user but it feels like it's not ready yet for day to day use.

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