Can someone very briefly explain the popularity of emacs and vim among programmer types? I'm aware that they're unix based text-editors with some degree of reprogrammability... but what's the big deal?
GNU Emacs 23.2 released
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Re: GNU Emacs 23.2 released
#22Can someone very briefly explain the popularity of emacs and vim among programmer types? I'm aware that they're unix based text-editors with some degree of reprogrammability... but what's the big deal?
Don't... even... start. ;)
Re: GNU Emacs 23.2 released
#23Can someone very briefly explain the popularity of emacs and vim among programmer types? I'm aware that they're unix based text-editors with some degree of reprogrammability... but what's the big deal?
The gist is that these editors are both customizable to the extent that proficient users don't see the need to go elsewhere. They're both keyboard driven, so one finds their productivity soaring as their dependency on the mouse decreases. They're text oriented, so moving around and manipulating text is much more natural and speedy than other modern editors.
In short, give either a shot. You might find it does everything and more that your current editor does. Neither be 100% comfortable to you over night, but in time you'll wonder why you worked with anything else.
Re: GNU Emacs 23.2 released
#24The NEWS file http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/NEWS.23.2 is more helpful. * CEDET http://cedet.sourceforge.net/ is now part of emacs(!!!) * RMAIL now uses mbox
js.el is a new major mode for JavaScript files. I think js2.el (Steve Yegge) was combined with javascript.el to make a new mode. Might be interesting...
has anyone got more information about this? I recently started using js2mode, its awesome but has way too many bugs.
Re: GNU Emacs 23.2 released
#25Can someone very briefly explain the popularity of emacs and vim among programmer types? I'm aware that they're unix based text-editors with some degree of reprogrammability... but what's the big deal?
The gist is that these editors are both customizable to the extent that proficient users don't see the need to go elsewhere. They're both keyboard driven, so one finds their productivity soaring as their dependency on the mouse decreases. They're text oriented, so moving around and manipulating text is much more natural and speedy than other modern editors. In short, give either a shot. You might find it does everyth…
Both? There is only one.
Re: GNU Emacs 23.2 released
#26Mac OS X users can get a binary at http://emacsformacosx.com/ .
Crashes here (on 10.5) with:
Exception Type: EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP) Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000 Crashed Thread: 0
Dyld Error Message: unknown required load command 0x80000022
I guess it is for 10.6 only?
Re: GNU Emacs 23.2 released
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
That doesn't appear to be true. From http://www.mscs.dal.ca/~selinger/md5collision/ : It is now well-known that the crytographic hash function MD5 has been broken. [...] The following is an improvement of Diaz's example, which does not need a special extractor. Here are two pairs of executable programs (one pair runs on Windows, one pair on Linux) [...] Here, you can download the software that I used to create MD5-co…
The person doing the spoofing has to create both of the files. You can't take an existing file created by a third party, and then generate a collision against it (yet).
Sure you can, if you have arbitrarily long but still finite time. (Think recursive versus recursively enumerable sets.)
Re: GNU Emacs 23.2 released
#28Nice to see that CEDET is now included.
Re: GNU Emacs 23.2 released
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you give me a situation where you would need more space ?
- Viewing/modifying a fasta file containing human chromosome data - Extremely large log files Why not use less? Because it's ugly and does not allow me to edit or copy specific sections out. I like having the full power of a good text editor at my back. I have brought this concern up before, and the excuse I heard was, "Well, you should not have to work with files that large." Seems someone in emacs-land disagrees; n…
I don't understand what you mean by "Viewing Large Files" - Is it the case the Emacs doesn't gracefully handle viewing greater than 512 MB Text Files? That isn't a particularly large log file (In Debug Mode, our Java APP gets there in about three-four hours), and we routinely work with files of 2 Gigabytes in size without considering them "large".
Re: GNU Emacs 23.2 released
#30Can someone very briefly explain the popularity of emacs and vim among programmer types? I'm aware that they're unix based text-editors with some degree of reprogrammability... but what's the big deal?
It's a fair question. Emacs is one of few editors left that makes it possible to work on multiple files at once without taking your hands off the keyboard. No fumbling with the mouse. Watch someone who has mastered Emacs edit some code and you'll understand its appeal.