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Bitcoin Price Tops $1,000 in First Day of 2017 Trading

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You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multi-variate, multi-national dominion of dollars/bitcoins

Bravo. It's time to watch "Network" again! https://sfy.ru/?script=network

This movie is so quotable it's almost scary.

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Bitcoin is living up to it's reputation as digital gold. The Chinese are running away from RMB and buying bitcoin, Venezuelans are running away from Bolivares into Bitcoin. And to a lesser extent some Indians are escaping the Rupee. It'll be really interesting to see how governments try to deal with decentralized currencies if they really take off. Governments lose a lot of control when they can't control money.

It's hard to get reliable numbers of the number of Venezuelans having bitcoin. According to [1], surbitcoin.com had 85,000 users in November 2016 (on a population of 30 million). Quartz reported in November 2016 a weekly bitcoin volume below 400 bitcoin on localbitcoin.com. That is not bad, but I would not call it Venezuelans running away from Bolivares into Bitcoin. One of the problems is that you would have to be c…

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You'll find a lot of such dismissive articles about Bitcoin throughout its existence. Here's a collection of 'Bitcoin obituaries' if you want to reinforce that view: https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoinobituaries/

It's not an obituary, it's a fact. I am tired of rehearsing how a currency is enforced to be accepted in the issuing country, has a monetary authority etc. Otherwise while theoretically it could be called a currency, that's a thing for dictionary writers, it's just not usable in everyday life therefore anyone pushing for it has a not-entirely-straight agenda. There's no killer app for bitcoin yet and it's hard to eve…

If you are in the US, what is your opinion on the common prison trope that smokes are money in prisons?

Re: Bitcoin Price Tops $1,000 in First Day of 2017 Trading

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Bitcoin is living up to it's reputation as digital gold. The Chinese are running away from RMB and buying bitcoin, Venezuelans are running away from Bolivares into Bitcoin. And to a lesser extent some Indians are escaping the Rupee. It'll be really interesting to see how governments try to deal with decentralized currencies if they really take off. Governments lose a lot of control when they can't control money.

A part of me wishes I had bought back when it was still only a few hundred. At the same time, I still really don't see a future for bitcoin. Sure it can be good for hedging against currency falls, but that's not a good long term prospect. For it to succeed on the long run it needs to be a currency which needs stability and the willingness of a large group of people to exchange it for goods and or services. Progress in that area has been slow.

Not to mention the community debates over hard forking which threaten the future of the currency entirely.

Re: Bitcoin Price Tops $1,000 in First Day of 2017 Trading

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Bitcoin is living up to it's reputation as digital gold. The Chinese are running away from RMB and buying bitcoin, Venezuelans are running away from Bolivares into Bitcoin. And to a lesser extent some Indians are escaping the Rupee. It'll be really interesting to see how governments try to deal with decentralized currencies if they really take off. Governments lose a lot of control when they can't control money.

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Re: Bitcoin Price Tops $1,000 in First Day of 2017 Trading

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/06/08/bitco...

By that rational, any publicly traded commodity is a ponzi\pyramid scheme. Anything with a finite supply and demand will command a price. The market doesn't care if you dislike the speculative nature of bitcoin; it is simple supply and demand at work.

You could make the exact same arguments against gold but that doesn't stop central banks of the world from hording it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_reserve The only differences are 3,500 years of history and... teleportation.

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Just the world's first digital, decentralized currency succeeding. Hackers can and will use it to create new and fascinating projects.

Skyrocketing value is not a desirable trait for a would be currency.

Better than going to zero.
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