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I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by jc4p »

WhitneyLand wrote: post #205
jc4p wrote: post #195

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I mean... I work for a related company (as mentioned in the post)... sorry for being excited about something they're working on? I just felt the need to comment because a lot of the comments remind me of my first impression of the product before I really gave it a chance. I was so angry they were working on it, they started working on it after a quiet period following the Fog Creek / Trello split and my first impress…

There ya go - should have started out your previous comment with this text. This one sounds much more honest and thoughtful. Again, not questioning your ethics. Just trying help make your argument more impactful.

Yeah, very valid. The comment was stream-of-consciousness because I saw this post when I got home from a pre-new-years-eve party last night.

Honestly with the rest of this thread and the feedback though, I wish I hadn't posted it at all. I used to really enjoy participating in this community.

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by alooPotato »

GarethX wrote: post #96
alooPotato wrote: post #13

so while I'm coding, the site is down for my users? (because half written code throws errors until finished) I like the auto-deploy because the iteration cycle is amazing for testing and realtime collab, but it would be great if I it auto-deployed to a staging area, then when satisfied promote that to be live...

We'll be adding some type of super simple 'branching' type functionality allowing people to develop without breaking production.

Is that happening soonish?

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by jacques_chester »

olegp wrote: post #191
irq-1 wrote: post #182

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Don't people who are starting out find these systems to be too difficult? You have to know much more to use this, then the "view source" days: Http codes/headers, javascript, npm?, css... Those weren't things you dealt with when changing Html on your local browser. I'm sure I don't have a good perspective on what new coders can handle, but this seems like too much.

Good point. AppJet and Akshell had their own built in libraries and guides, whereas with Gomix you're expected to already know about Node, NPM and figure out which libraries to use yourself. This is likely to make this too complex for people just starting out, making the model even less viable. On a somewhat related note, one thing I'd like to see is cheap Heroku like hosting for Node. Most Node web apps could get by…

Pivotal Web Services[0] uses Cloud Foundry, allowing you to specify any instance size you want, to the megabyte.

(The pricing page[1] is deliberately simplified, but you really can specify to the megabyte what you want).

[0] http://run.pivotal.io/

[1] http://run.pivotal.io/pricing/

Disclosure: I work for Pivotal.

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by aassddffasdf »

jdross wrote: post #41
aassddffasdf wrote: post #37

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You do realize that Stack Overflow and Twilio are Fog Creek products yea?

Twilio (SMS and voice infra and APIs) is not related to Fog Creek. Trello (project management) and Stack Overflow were spun off from Fog Creek parent company, but are not run by Fog Creek.

Does it matter who runs them? Are the various subsidiaries of abc now not to ever be associated with 'Google'? That's naive and shortsighted.

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by anildash »

eldavido wrote: post #197
anildash wrote: post #186

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I wrote this post the same day as the rest of the announcements; I don't know why my personal blog post took off now, but I'd definitely prefer to focus on the product, not me.

Anil - not sure you're still reading here but the civility with which you've handled a lot of criticism really impresses me.

Heh, thanks. I've been on the internet long enough to know most of what folks are going to fuss about on HN probably doesn't have much to actually do with me as a person.

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by anildash »

mistermann wrote: post #16

Considering there are probably many thousands of developer hours invested in this, I hope Fog Creek invests ten or thirty hours into making some quick and dirty youtube videos showing starting from scratch and building out a a few full apps with persistence, some integrations, etc so we can see what that involves. I still don't completely understand what GoMix is exactly from the video shown here.

Yep, this is a good idea. We've been holding off so that we can use the community's actual creations as the examples, and that's what we'll feature when we make clearer introductions to Gomix. Some will be videos, some will be written out, and maybe we'll do other formats as well.

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by anildash »

therein wrote: post #59
Stratoscope wrote: post #51

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Oh, you are right. I never heard of this guy before, but this quote from his "about" page is choice: "His Twitter account is the only one that’s been retweeted by the White House, Bill Gates and Prince, a succinct summarization of Dash’s interests." http://anildash.com/about.html

He really sounds like the worst kind of person, doesn't he?

Depends, I think having a bio that seems too self-congratulatory is not as bad as, say, perpetrating systemic violence or oppression against entire groups of people. Some can disagree with that, I guess.

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by brudgers »

hashhar wrote: post #202
nzjrs wrote: post #79

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It's warranted in this case as it's responding to the worst launch post I can recall reading.

This is actually not the launch post. This is the launch post [1]. 1: https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2016/05/31/introducing-hyperd...

The Hacker News discussion of the announcement: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11808911

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by anildash »

Stratoscope wrote: post #32

Anil, I don't know you, and you certainly don't know me. But I have a word of advice. When you join a company a few weeks before it releases a new software product, have the humility to admit that you had precious little to do with it. Don't write about yourself, at all! Write about the product, what it can do for me, and the amazing team who built it. I'm going to go way out of line and do a bit of a hatchet job on…

Put simply, this was my personal blog post, so it was about me & my feelings about the moment. On our company blog, or on Medium, we (as Fog Creek) wrote about the Gomix product and the only mention of me was a little blurb at the bottom. Both of these choices seem appropriate to me.
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