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I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

#151

How many times can this blowhard say "I'm the CEO" in one blog post? He & his CEOness are not the story here.

Hey throwaway, this is a link to my personal blog. Our official company posts aren't about me, just the one on my site is. You'll also find my personal Instagram has pictures of me & my kid and my personal Tumblr has some songs and pictures that I like.

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

#152
post #115

This mostly seems to be about a new CEO at Fog Creek. I have never heard of him but appearantly he has a big following. And it appears that a very large number of people don't like him - enough to create a bunch of new accounts here at HN just to comment on his persona. Fog Creek has to me always been about Joel on Software. And to me they always got a lot of credit and extra attention to their products because of hi…

>I fail to see what it adds to an already crowded space Can you give an example? I'm not aware of many products that are attacking the problem of making coding easier and more fun in the same way they are.

Countless people have tried to make programming "easier" and "more fun". It usually ends up into wishful thinking and lots of sentences with "awesome" and other words without any meaning in them.

I'd rather make coding simpler than easier. The fun will naturally emerge out of using simpler constructs. This is exactly what Clojure did for me :)

I tried many tools with Java/C#/C++/JavaScript/Ruby and whatnot and while they can be useful, they're not to the point of making code actually easier or fun in these languages - at least not nearly enough for all the learning they require you to do.

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

#153
post #6

I love Fog Creek and use Trello daily. I'm your target audience. If you could make this self-hosted i.e. on my own company's intranet secure servers, I would pay a lot for it.

Ditto. It'll would be awesome if there was an ability to download the files you 'remixed' so you can self host. It could serve as a great educational tool too. Something that would allow people who are overwhelmed to get their feet wet and 'build something functional'. Getting 'hello world' to print on a console is cool, but it won't excite someone as much as getting a live website to print 'hello world'.

Yep! We're doing exactly this — hope you'll give it a try. :)

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

#154
post #52

Will Gomix be open source?

Most of Gomix is totally standard open source infrastructure, and people can release projects on Gomix under any license they want. We don't currently have plans to open source the parts of Gomix that run the community or enable remixing apps, but we'll follow the community's lead based on what they need.

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

#155

1/4 of the article about what is Fog Creek and how well everyone knows it. 1/4 of the article about culture and other guys and... I don't know what the hell it's talking about. I'm not even bothering reading half the sentence anymore. 1/4 Then it's talking about other unrelated products now? Outlook something. > "Gomix brings back the fun of the “view source” web" Oh finally. I had to re-read the article 3 times to f…

The big news on the page is that Anil Dash was hired as Fog Creek Software's CEO. The blog was published the same day it was announced. The name change of the product is sort of incidental: GoMix was previously named HyperDev.

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

#156

1/4 of the article about what is Fog Creek and how well everyone knows it. 1/4 of the article about culture and other guys and... I don't know what the hell it's talking about. I'm not even bothering reading half the sentence anymore. 1/4 Then it's talking about other unrelated products now? Outlook something. > "Gomix brings back the fun of the “view source” web" Oh finally. I had to re-read the article 3 times to f…

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Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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> to stop coding from being an exclusionary priesthood for a small few

Are there really people that see it that way? For me it's just the opposite, programming is a field that is easily accessible to anyone that's interested, with a very low entry bar.

Since I learned to program when I was a teenager, by reading a book about the BASIC language and taking an introductory class where I could use a microcomputer, I have a hard time thinking about it as "an exclusionary priesthood for a small few".

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

#158

> to stop coding from being an exclusionary priesthood for a small few Are there really people that see it that way? For me it's just the opposite, programming is a field that is easily accessible to anyone that's interested, with a very low entry bar. Since I learned to program when I was a teenager, by reading a book about the BASIC language and taking an introductory class where I could use a microcomputer, I have…

>>programming is a field that is easily accessible to anyone that's interested, with a very low entry bar.

Not according to the hordes of HN posters who regularly shit on coding bootcamps.

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

#159
post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're both online editors that use the word "remix", but that's really it. Mozilla Thimble is a HTML/CSS/JS learning tool. It's frontend only and doesn't have realtime collaboration. Gomix is backend and frontend. It's collaborative, so a team can work on it at the same time. They're looking to change how teams work together by replacing version control. It also deploys instantly, so there's no saving/uploading/pus…

I still didn't understand how they replace version control for the sake of something better. AFAICT, it just lacks version control?

Lack of version control is a deal breaker for me to just go through the trouble of opening their page and clicking on "Try".

Maybe there will be Kiln integration at some point?

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

#160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reading his post it was perfectly clear what kind of egomaniac he is, he spoke only about himself and I had no idea what the product was about. After reading in the other comments what kind of person he is I decided to actively discourage as many people as possible to use the product as long as he is the CEO. Maybe savouring his own medicine will help him to understand the consequences of his actions and a bit of hum…

For real. Wasn't the product 90% done before he even came over? Sounds like he is taking credit.

This was a post on my personal blog about joining the company; as the official announcements make clear, one of the biggest reasons I was excited to join Fog Creek is specifically because the team was building Gomix. I'd give 100% of the credit to the team for building it.
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