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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by gravypod »

yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #360
gravypod wrote: post #263

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> Design is part and parcel of a laptop's usability and usage, and impacts its effective lifespan (you can get mileage out of a laptop while it's falling to pieces but that's not an enjoyable experience). I don't think that's a fair characterization of the thinkpad experiance. I own one, and every other owner I know, hasn't had these things crap out. Also, if they do crap out there are guides telling you exactly what…

> A computer is a tool. Would you buy a shovel if it was very bad at shoveling and had a pre-determined lifespan just because it was colored to match your khakis? In that sense, a car is just a tool to get you from A to B. So buying a Porsche would be completely pointless. Clothes are just tools for keeping you warm. It's pointless to take pride in how you present yourself. So many of my engineering friends think thi…

> In that sense, a car is just a tool to get you from A to B. So buying a Porsche would be completely pointless.

A Porsche is a different class of car in quality of construction and maximum speed achievable. That's the only reason I'd buy one. My car is a Subaru Forester and I love it.

> Clothes are just tools for keeping you warm. It's pointless to take pride in how you present yourself.

Some clothes keep you warmer or cooler depending on the environment. I guess I'm a minimalist but all of my shirts and pants are either single colored or a line pattern on a button up. They work fine as shirts, the only upgrade they need is pockets.

>So many of my engineering friends think this way. Too many. In fact, most of Sweden thinks this way about cars, and most of Germany thinks this way about clothes.

I guess some people are just fine with presenting themselves as a person and don't want to look special. I personally thing my winning personality will keep people away if my cloths don't so I'm already set.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by dkersten »

sydd wrote: post #264
j7ake wrote: post #162

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You hinted at it in the end: MacBooks have good software that works. No troubles connecting to peripherals like printers and projectors. No worries about laptop sucking battery when I close the lid and forget to sleep. And MacBooks have the best touchpad of all laptops.

IMO Windows is better than OSX, but to each of its own. For example I hate Finder, I dont like that I am not able to run lots of software, I dont like that its running an ancient version of OpenGL/there is no Vulkan.

Also, as a mac user for the past year and a half, I still can't figure out when the three coloured dots are useful. Just give me windows-style minimize/maximize/close buttons please...

Every long time Mac user I've asked says they just don't use those buttons. Maximising windows is a mess in mac. Multi monitor support is also rather poor.

Over all, I've had no real problems with OS X (at least after installing my own terminal program and own version of bash and such) and everything worked smoothly, which is great, but I certainly wouldn't hold OS X up as some example of perfect design because there are lots of things windows and Linux do better.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by dkersten »

izacus wrote: post #448
j7ake wrote: post #162

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You hinted at it in the end: MacBooks have good software that works. No troubles connecting to peripherals like printers and projectors. No worries about laptop sucking battery when I close the lid and forget to sleep. And MacBooks have the best touchpad of all laptops.

> No troubles connecting to peripherals like printers and projectors. Well, except for all those dongles you need to drag around with you.

I've had problems connecting by MBP to the projector system in a company that uses predominantly macs... (but not using Apple TV - that's always worked flawlessly for me). So I definitely disagree with the no trouble connecting to peripherals like projectors.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by vbernat »

vacri wrote: post #153

I have an X1 gen 3, and it has a dongle for the ethernet port. Given the thickness of it, I don't see how this new gen machine can hold a 'native rj45'. Perhaps it's one of those hinged ones that opens out?

It's native because it is not over USB. The "dongle" is only a cable to go from the "mini" RJ45 to the regular one.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by [deleted] »

joecool1029 wrote: post #158

A large chunk of the Thinkpad user community is pretty fed up with the ultrabook spec that Lenovo is shipping on its flagship models, namely the inability to effectively customize and modify to use. I keep an X201 alongside my late 2013 rMBP simply because I can use expresscard and a dock and ethernet without carrying around a stupid dongle. I understand they are trying to chase Apple's market, but expect them to fal…

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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by forgotpwtomain »

c0nfused wrote: post #299
piker wrote: post #51

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Interesting that your wifi experience sounds terrible, but you've given it a "decent" rating. For me, wifi concerns are among the most important. Thanks for the feedback.

This is pretty standard for any wifi connection in Ubuntu for me over 3 machines with 3 different wifi cards in 16.04 You get to restart network manger so it will do things like list wifi networks or reconnect to a network after suspend, it gets fixed for a few weeks, and then the issue comes back a few patches later. sources: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+b... https://bugs.launchpad.net/…

That's why I'm still using netctl.. It's 2016: some one needs to rewrite that pile of crap..

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by koalaman »

gustavohmsilva wrote: post #460
Waterluvian wrote: post #22

I want to be excited by a good non-Apple laptop. But they're all just so terribly designed. They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy, have grills and screw holes and uneven surfaces and stickers everywhere. I had a T530 for a few years at my first job and just hated it. It had fantastic specs but it felt awful and unreliable and like I had to babysit it. I got a 2015 MBP to replace it after IT damag…

I've been happy with google's Chromebook Pixel LS running Linux with openbox (for minimal resource consumption) and running windows 8 inside a VM. The construction of this chromebook is at the same level of any Apple device, with the upside of having a better design (in my opinion).

Has high DPI support improved on Linux? The last time I tried this it was impossible to get the desktop and the graphical apps to usable.

+1 to the Chromebook Pixel being amazing hardware. Thinkpad touchpads drive me nuts.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by [deleted] »

gustavohmsilva wrote: post #460
Waterluvian wrote: post #22

I want to be excited by a good non-Apple laptop. But they're all just so terribly designed. They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy, have grills and screw holes and uneven surfaces and stickers everywhere. I had a T530 for a few years at my first job and just hated it. It had fantastic specs but it felt awful and unreliable and like I had to babysit it. I got a 2015 MBP to replace it after IT damag…

I've been happy with google's Chromebook Pixel LS running Linux with openbox (for minimal resource consumption) and running windows 8 inside a VM. The construction of this chromebook is at the same level of any Apple device, with the upside of having a better design (in my opinion).

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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by scholia »

rayiner wrote: post #352
scholia wrote: post #301

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> I don't know what happened, really. 10 years ago you bought a laptop, no matter which brand, and you would get a decent keyboard. THIN became a much more important marketing tool than GOOD, or even FUNCTIONAL.

There is nothing more "good" or "functional" about deep travel keyboards. They're just a matter of taste. You can type just as fast on something like a MacBook keyboard once you get used to it.

Sure. That's why Cherry went out of business years ago...
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