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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by j7ake »

sydd wrote: post #264
j7ake wrote: post #162

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You hinted at it in the end: MacBooks have good software that works. No troubles connecting to peripherals like printers and projectors. No worries about laptop sucking battery when I close the lid and forget to sleep. And MacBooks have the best touchpad of all laptops.

IMO Windows is better than OSX, but to each of its own. For example I hate Finder, I dont like that I am not able to run lots of software, I dont like that its running an ancient version of OpenGL/there is no Vulkan.

I agree when I switched from Windows to osx, I had a lot of trouble with finder. But now I am slowly getting used to it.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by j7ake »

xanderstrike wrote: post #239
j7ake wrote: post #162

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You hinted at it in the end: MacBooks have good software that works. No troubles connecting to peripherals like printers and projectors. No worries about laptop sucking battery when I close the lid and forget to sleep. And MacBooks have the best touchpad of all laptops.

> MacBooks have good software that works I just spent my entire workday struggling to figure out why `kernal_task` was constantly using 16gb of RAM. Whenever people say macOS "just works" I assume they do nothing but web browse. It's great at that.

The browser takes up most of takes up most of my resources. Apart from that it would be Adobe products and sometimes MATLAB (all less resources than safari). My terminal would be negligible.

I agree with your comment. Generally, OSX often means I am using more resources to do the same task than when I use my archlinux. But in the era of 16g+ ram and terabyte Harddisks, I find it simpler to just let OSX use extra resources so I can spend less time thinking about low level processes.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by Havoc »

Roritharr wrote: post #90
tbrock wrote: post #29

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You must be trolling. Look at the size of it. The thermals for the quad core chip don't make sense and they can very likely only fit 16gb of ram. The T series is what you are looking for. Try find any laptop of that size with 32gb ram and quad core option. It doesn't exist.

Thats my point, it doesn't exist, but for arbitrary reasons. The RAM chips in an Alienware 13 aren't more or larger than in the X1 Carbon, its just that they opt-to not offering this. The Intel i7-7500U is capable of driving 32gb, so there's no limit there, even if I would have to compromise on the quadcore. But the Thermal Restrictions of the quadcore are imo manageable aswell, as they only have to dissipate about 2…

>they only have to dissipate about 20W of heat more at peak

That's a hell of a lot of extra heat in a thin laptop. Especially if a big chunk of the market values silence. An office full of laptops all sounding like airplanes isn't ideal.

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Post by luos »

thesandlord wrote: post #370
noir_lord wrote: post #283

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> Cut the bullshit and just run Linux on the bare metal, I run Linux on Linux via vagrant, it's not about my program running faster it's about isolating a client projects dependencies from each other so when I have to work on that system that is still in production on PHP Current-1 or Ruby-1 I don't have to fuck with my host OS at all. In fact I have very few developer bits and bobs installed on the host (mostly just…

Curious, why Vagrant and not Docker? Then you don't need to run a VM, but still get the same isolation.

I am guessing is that when he started working on this stuff docker was in it's infancy (still is IMHO), and had no reason/time to port it.

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Post by jschwartzi »

emidln wrote: post #206
rayiner wrote: post #183

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> There is no way a Macbook can compete with a proper Thinkpad [2] for programmer productivity: the keyboard, the UltraNav, the swappable batteries (you can fly around the world with a x260 + spare battery), a nice docking station Keyboard and UltraNav are more taste than anything else. I have a T450s for work and a 15" rMBP and vastly prefer the keyboard/touchpad on the latter. It doesn't help that Lenovo's QA is sh…

Lenovo is infamous for shipping shitty RAM / Disk options. You often can't buy appropriately maxed out hardware from them. A few years ago, I was procuring a few Thinkpad W520 for a new team and at no point did they offer a 500gb or larger SSD. The 384GB drive they had was an extra grand. I bought the machines in max cpu/graphics config and ordered ram and disks separately. Nobody on the team had an issue using a scr…

This is what I did with the P50 my work bought me. Basically I bought a dual-4k-monitor setup with tons of RAM and disk for what a comparable MBP would have cost.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by pbowyer »

thesandlord wrote: post #370
noir_lord wrote: post #283

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> Cut the bullshit and just run Linux on the bare metal, I run Linux on Linux via vagrant, it's not about my program running faster it's about isolating a client projects dependencies from each other so when I have to work on that system that is still in production on PHP Current-1 or Ruby-1 I don't have to fuck with my host OS at all. In fact I have very few developer bits and bobs installed on the host (mostly just…

Curious, why Vagrant and not Docker? Then you don't need to run a VM, but still get the same isolation.

> Curious, why Vagrant and not Docker?

I have a Vagrant/Virtualbox workflow (on Windows host, so Docker not a great option yet) but curious: does Docker have shared folder support - via NFS or other?

It's been the getting stuff into & out of the VM that's most painful IMO.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by masklinn »

snuxoll wrote: post #371
masklinn wrote: post #208

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> There is no way a Macbook can compete with a proper Thinkpad Your criticisms are pretty almost all a matter of taste, and we're in disagreement just about throughout. > I wonder if it's the Valley culture? I'm not in the valley. I've never found any non-apple laptop with a good (or even decent) trackpad, and I like that OSX has a community of indie developers who actually care. > the keyboard I don't enjoy thinkpad…

Eh, different strokes. Personally, I have a ThinkPad W540 for work and while it weighs like a brick man is it easy to work with. The UltraNav isn't as nice as the trackpad on my XPS 13, but I usually work with the TrackPoint on ThinkPad's anyway (killer feature for me to be honest, even Apple's awesome trackpad disappointments in comparison to a good ol' TrackPoint in my opinion) - upgrading the RAM and SSD required…

> Eh, different strokes.

Er… yes that's quite literally my entire point, and specifically spelled out as my first paragraph.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by muro »

muro wrote: post #235
copperx wrote: post #172

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Decent machines indeed as long as you are close to a wall socket. Linux power management has a lot of growing up to do.

Agreed. Lenovo claims "up to" 9 hours for the 3rd gen X1 carbon, I get at most 5 under linux.

That said, I still prefer my X1 to macbooks. I find the MBP 15 heavy, the air has an atrocious screen. And both make my wrists hurt when typing - the edge of the laptop is too sharp. The X1 has a great screen (QHD), is very light and has an excellent keyboard. I think the trackpad, software and battery life are better with macbooks.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by n1000 »

discordance wrote: post #251
djsumdog wrote: post #163

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A lot of developers love their Macs and I don't get it. For me OSX 10.6 was the last decent one. Mission Control is garbage compared to Expose. I got so frustrated with it that I started running Linux in a VM on my Mac as my primary system. I also got into tiling window managers, which killed every going back to Mac/Windows. Today's Dell and Lenovo laptops are good Linux dev machines. I've never had a problem with pu…

Mac OS X 10.6 was great. I remember when Apple released it saying, 'no new features'. Just bug fixes and speed improvements. We need one of those again.

and move away from the annual major release cycle again...
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