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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by amiga-workbench »

tvon wrote: post #364
amiga-workbench wrote: post #160

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I don't understand it either, the thing that always gets me is most developers setting up vagrant on their Mac just to get a working environment. Cut the bullshit and just run Linux on the bare metal, your program will run faster, and your laptop battery life won't be halved. You will have to claw my x201 out of my cold dead hands, I've not found a single notebook (even the newer ThinkPads) that are as comfortable to…

> (...) most developers setting up vagrant on their Mac just to get a working environment. What kind of working environment requires setting up Vagrant on OSX? It's a Unix-based OS, if you're doing any web development you can do it on the host system.

You generally develop on the platform that your software will end up running on, and nobody in their right mind uses OSX on a server.

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Post by innocentoldguy »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #212
Waterluvian wrote: post #22

I want to be excited by a good non-Apple laptop. But they're all just so terribly designed. They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy, have grills and screw holes and uneven surfaces and stickers everywhere. I had a T530 for a few years at my first job and just hated it. It had fantastic specs but it felt awful and unreliable and like I had to babysit it. I got a 2015 MBP to replace it after IT damag…

>> I want to be excited by a good non-Apple laptop. But they're all just so terribly designed. They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy, have grills and screw holes and uneven surfaces and stickers everywhere. Is this really a serious reason to buy a laptop, or not, the design? You buy a computer because of its performance, not its appearance- which is something completely subjective in the first pl…

I think you're focusing too much on the aesthetic aspect of the word "design," and not enough on the functional aspect.

I buy a laptop to use, and if I have to use a spongy keyboard, a stupid pointing nipple, a subpar trackpad, or deal with a creaking, bendy case, then the 8 to 10 hours I spend in front of that damn thing every day are not going to be very pleasant for me, and I cannot stress the importance of that enough.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by mynameisvlad »

temac wrote: post #334
mynameisvlad wrote: post #258

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Not quite. This tool takes it a step further. The Win8 Refresh/Reset was based on an image preloaded by the OEM, or installed as part of a Win8 install. If you reset your computer, you'd get all the bloatware back unless you clean installed (which replaces the image). Win10 Refresh/Reset doesn't have such an image, and just reconstructs a fresh state as part of the process, but then runs a package that the OEM preloa…

They might have been able to "capture" a good amount of drivers with their new update strategy. This might help to be able to do that... and this is a good news!

I haven't really needed extra drivers in either my Surfaces (duh) and also my Lenovo laptops. My custom-built gaming tower did need some but mainly just to enable some gaming features.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by bschwindHN »

platz wrote: post #132
lobster_johnson wrote: post #56

As someone who is considering moving from a MacBook Pro 2015 to a Linux laptop, the keyboard and, in particular, the trackpad on PC models are the biggest disappointments. Apple has spent so much effort on the tactility of their laptops, while PC manufacturers still seem to be stuck in an earlier decade. I was a little bit shocked to discover that Thinkpads still have that terrible little mouse nipple, which I hadn't…

The mouse nipple is what keeps me using thinkpads. Maybe if Apple includes a mouse nipple on their products I'll consider switching over.

Don't hold your breath on that one. We'd probably have something like "RSIgate" if Apple did that.

And besides, Apple's trackpad is best in class, they don't really need another mouse input.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by svennek »

op00to wrote: post #336
ajross wrote: post #279

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I get a measured 13 hours of work time on my new T460. You're citing intuition which is awfully stale.

13 hours with the extra goiter-battery? Doing what?

I have an X1 (Yoga).

Tiny almost weightless (feels lighter than current-gen Macbook Air) laptop, and it runs between 10 to 11 hours on the battery when doing normal work (programming, mail, web, spreadsheets etc..) on wifi with pleasant screen brightness ...

Linux power management is fine today on modern hardware... (Powertop reports 5.2-5.5 watts)

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by svennek »

AlexC04 wrote: post #354
josteink wrote: post #140

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> They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy The Carbon X1 is made from carbon fiber. It super-robust and light-weight at the same time. It feels light years ahead of the super-heavy aluminium-nonsense Apple is trying to peddle. Count me happy my laptop doesn't double as a bench-press.

> The Carbon X1 is made from carbon fiber. It super-robust and light-weight at the same time. If I'm honest I have no Idea why there is an ad for the X1 on hackernews today. The page itself is 404-ing for me. That said, I held an X1 carbon last september when shopping for a new laptop with my girlfriend. It was a fucking glorious machine. In the end we wound up buying the lenevo yoga because it comes with an i7, SSD,…

Then you should try the X1 Yoga - basically an X1 Carbon 4th gen with the yoga hinges and a wacom digitizer and a glorious screen..

It has been my main laptop since release and it is by far the best laptop I ever owned...

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by svennek »

jolux wrote: post #337
josteink wrote: post #174

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I think the more important part is where OP implied anything not made of metal was deemed unreliable. I think that's a pretty stone-age point of view given modern material technology.

People say this, and I really really want to like the ThinkPads and in particular the X1 Carbon because it's black and badass but it can't possibly be made out of carbon fiber for how flimsy it feels. Granted perhaps it's more durable than it seems but MacBooks are so solid and dense and rigid by comparison. One of my friends has dropped his Air out of his lofted dorm bed numerous times and you couldn't even tell by…

I did the yoga thing with a Macbook Air and it's hinges was fucked instantly :)

My X1 yoga has no trouble what-so-ever and I dropped it a few feet.. (and it rattles along unprotected in a leather bag every day)...

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by innocentoldguy »

munchbunny wrote: post #148
Waterluvian wrote: post #22

I want to be excited by a good non-Apple laptop. But they're all just so terribly designed. They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy, have grills and screw holes and uneven surfaces and stickers everywhere. I had a T530 for a few years at my first job and just hated it. It had fantastic specs but it felt awful and unreliable and like I had to babysit it. I got a 2015 MBP to replace it after IT damag…

There are plenty of options, but it really depends on your definition of good . Different people making the same complaint as you on HN have very different and sometimes very particular criteria. If you look at the systems overall the MBP's have good alternatives now. The X1 is actually really impressive. First gen had a short battery life and the display wasn't high resolution, but they addressed that pretty quickly…

Perhaps from a hardware perspective this is true, but if you have to run commercial software (e.g. Adobe, DAWs, etc.) and do software development in a Unix environment, there really isn't a better option than macOS on a MacBook Pro. Windows sucks, and as much as I love Linux, it just doesn't cut it when I need Illustrator, Photoshop, Studio One, or Logic.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by innocentoldguy »

Waterluvian wrote: post #73
Nition wrote: post #67

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The lack of fans and vents on the bottom of MacBooks Pros is seriously a huge benefit. I can actually use it ON MY LAP!

Yeah! But a massive drawback is forgetting that it's metal and that you left it in your trunk last night. I was in my jimjams Christmas morning, went to put on some music, and without thinking, placed this frozen box of death onto my bare legs.

Too true! Nothing sucks more than Christmas shrinkage.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by svennek »

bulatb wrote: post #353
mactunes wrote: post #64

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I just recently bought a ASUS ZenBook UX360UAK with a 7th gen i7, 16GB RAM and a 512GB SSD. It's made out of aluminium, has a glass touchpad and costs around half of what a similarly priced MacBook pro costs in Germany. It's my first non-Mac after 20 years. I've owned it for a good week and so far I'm very happy. It has superb battery life, great build quality and is fast. Only 1 minor con: the fan always runs, but i…

> the fan always runs Are there laptops where it doesn't? I've had 4 different models from 4 different makers, including a MacBook Pro, and every one has run the fan 100℅ of the time.

On my X1Yoga, the fan almost never runs.. When it starts up I look at the running processes (because something is likely wrong)
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