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"by the end of 2017"? This must be a joke. Why not earlier? Why do they have to wait a whole year to enforce a ban like this? It's almost like "China announces ban on human trafficking by end of 2017". Yeah, let's give criminals some time to find new career opportunities!
They need to go further and ban any and all exotic animal trade for the quackery medicine and delicacy markets.
As well as put in place some animal cruelty laws. You would hold your head in your hands if you saw what happens. For dogs, for example, they will tie their front legs together BEHIND their back (YES, DISLOCATING THEM), and leave them tied up like that with a tin can over their mouth until they're ready to deal with them. They'll even hold the dogs legs like a "handle" while carrying them around. I've never seen crue…
Again, not trying to say China shouldn't. But am pointing out that it's a bit of throwing a stone in a glass house.
"by the end of 2017"? This must be a joke. Why not earlier? Why do they have to wait a whole year to enforce a ban like this? It's almost like "China announces ban on human trafficking by end of 2017". Yeah, let's give criminals some time to find new career opportunities!
Undoubtedly, the announcement will only spur poachers to work overtime and make money while the making is good.
Then there's the question of enforcement.
Thousands more will die before this senseless slaughter finally stops, if it ever does.
> I think people on HN perceive hunting or ivory trading as something bad such as human trafficking. It isn't. They both involve exploitation and suffering of intelligent and sentient being for selfish reasons. > My great-grandfather was an Ivory trader Your grandfather was a scum and no amount of mental gymnastics will change that. > With increasing government regulation and heavy handed attitude of regulators the e…
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As well as put in place some animal cruelty laws. You would hold your head in your hands if you saw what happens. For dogs, for example, they will tie their front legs together BEHIND their back (YES, DISLOCATING THEM), and leave them tied up like that with a tin can over their mouth until they're ready to deal with them. They'll even hold the dogs legs like a "handle" while carrying them around. I've never seen crue…
They should pass laws, but so should the west. The poultry/egg and fishing industry is unquestionably unethical. And much of the dairy and beef industry would have to improve as well. Again, not trying to say China shouldn't. But am pointing out that it's a bit of throwing a stone in a glass house.
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They should pass laws, but so should the west. The poultry/egg and fishing industry is unquestionably unethical. And much of the dairy and beef industry would have to improve as well. Again, not trying to say China shouldn't. But am pointing out that it's a bit of throwing a stone in a glass house.
I totally agree the West needs to improve animal welfare even further. But SOME cruelty laws are better than NONE, which is why I bring up China more. But you're totally right, there's awful stuff going on here, too.
Living in the US is expensive enough. Would you guarantee "ethical eggs" if the cost was fewer poor people could afford them? I am not happy that we treat poultry and fish the way we do, but if that means keeping those products affordable the I'd take that over increasing the welfare of an animal.
They need to go further and ban any and all exotic animal trade for the quackery medicine and delicacy markets.
As well as put in place some animal cruelty laws. You would hold your head in your hands if you saw what happens. For dogs, for example, they will tie their front legs together BEHIND their back (YES, DISLOCATING THEM), and leave them tied up like that with a tin can over their mouth until they're ready to deal with them. They'll even hold the dogs legs like a "handle" while carrying them around. I've never seen crue…
> I think people on HN perceive hunting or ivory trading as something bad such as human trafficking. It isn't. They both involve exploitation and suffering of intelligent and sentient being for selfish reasons. > My great-grandfather was an Ivory trader Your grandfather was a scum and no amount of mental gymnastics will change that. > With increasing government regulation and heavy handed attitude of regulators the e…
Please don't do this here.
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I'm all for being nice to animals but tbh untill we can feed "starving kids in Africa" maybe limited resources would be better directed for humans and not elephants (ie enforcing bans / going after black market).
Saying hunting is a solution is like saying killing poor people is a solution to poverty...[..]