Usually I have upgraded, but I currently have no intention of buying an iPhone 7 or later, unless they fix something! For me it's a double whammy. I don't like the lack of headphone jack, and whereas I feel like I could manage grumpily ... for me it kills the excitement of buying the new device, and I think that is important. (My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgra…
Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales
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Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales
#182Apple's losing its mojo in a slow steady drip and there's going to be more of this if they don't get it together soon. Apple used to be synonymous with premium equipment an a "It Just Works" experience. It made it really, really easy to just get the Apple version of anything knowing it was going to be good. My parents need equipment, I get them an iMac, an Airport Extreme, iPhone, iPad, etc...knowing it's all just go…
> Let's not forget using $30 USB cords to charge your phone/mouse. Both devices come with a Lighting cable, an Apple first party Lighting cable costs $20 not $30, and third party Lighting cables cost as little as $5.
Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales
#183Apple's losing its mojo in a slow steady drip and there's going to be more of this if they don't get it together soon. Apple used to be synonymous with premium equipment an a "It Just Works" experience. It made it really, really easy to just get the Apple version of anything knowing it was going to be good. My parents need equipment, I get them an iMac, an Airport Extreme, iPhone, iPad, etc...knowing it's all just go…
> Let's not forget using $30 USB cords to charge your phone/mouse. Both devices come with a Lighting cable, an Apple first party Lighting cable costs $20 not $30, and third party Lighting cables cost as little as $5.
The Apple ones don't last much longer, but I need to squirrel those away to do the undocumented reset on my kids' iPads.
Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales
#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
it's more efficient, It would need to be to run on the slower processors available to non-Apple companies. You can just do more with Androids What more, specifically?
My biggest examples are: Notifications. You can react immediately to notifications on Android (e.g. respond to a chat message without opening the app). You have them at the front and they are not gone after seeing them once hidden somewhere in a back menu (whcih is kind of important for reminders). Keyboard. I have this phone for a year now? It still doesn't know sh*t about guessing my words. And you can't just slide…
Background processing works fine, and was implemented in a way that doesn't completely drain the battery. The hotspot is designed to turn off if the clients have not been transmitting or receiving data for a period of time as a battery saving measure. It doesn't do this if you tether over USB though.
Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales
#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's well and good to point out that analysis based on supply chain sources may draw inaccurate conclusions and definitely to demonstrate that such analysis has been wrong in the past (it certainly has, for Apple and others). I do not claim to know whether this analysis will bear out in reality or not. I'm merely pointing out that it is nonsensical to blithely dismiss it or claim it may simply be "made up" when it is…
You are being very charitable to the WSJ. The WSJ article in question said in the second paragraph [1]: Apple's orders for iPhone 5 screens for the first quarter, for example, have dropped to roughly half of what the company had planned to order, the people said . In the three first months of 2014 Apple sold 37.4 million iPhones, compared to 35.1 million in the three first months of 2013 [2]. Unless you believe that…
Let's say that for Q4'12 Apple ordered 41M screens (vs say 30M in Q4'11), tracking toward a roughly ~35% YoY growth rate at the time. And, as per usual practice, so as to ensure their component partners in the supply chain are adequately tooled and ramped up for the future, they set expectations for Q1'13 and beyond, but at slightly lower growth levels than Q4'12's order because they are savvy and realize this is a maturing market where growth naturally slows over time. Without obligating themselves to actually order these future quantities in Q1'13 and beyond, they place contingent forecast orders representing say a ~28% YoY growth rate estimate for Q1'13 and beyond. Say that means they communicate a forecast order of 44M screens for Q1'13.
Now, as Q4'12 rolls along and Q1'13 component orders must be finalized and committed, Apple sees actual sales growth might be on pace for ~18% YoY. It looks like they will sell ~35M iPhones in Q1'13 vs the ~41M screens they have on hand from Q4'12's order, so they'll be left with a 6M screen inventory overhang from Q4'12's order. (I'm oversimplifying and assuming single quarter component turnaround time here for sake of illustration). They see that growth is tapering off going forward too (tracking down over time toward the actual ~10% YoY growth you cited by Q1'14). Q4'12's sales landed slightly slower than anticipated when they placed their order for it in Q3'12 as well, in line with this slower growth trend, and so they also have an overhang of, say, 4M screens from Q3'12's order for a total inventory overhang of 8M+4M = 12M screens by the end of Q4'12. They deduct this overhang from their projected Q1'13 screen order, as well as lowering their estimate from needing 44M screens in Q1'13 to needing, say, 36M screens total for Q2'13 As such, for Q1'13 they order 36M needed screens minus 12M screens in overhung inventory, or 24M new screens. So, Q1'13's order goes from a projected 44M screens to 24M.
In this scenario, a screen component supplier might say Apple "cut their Q1'13 order in half". But Apple's expected sales for Q1'13 and beyond wouldn't have been off by 50%, but more like less than 20% (41M vs 35M). Also bear in mind that Apple's internal forecast may not have even been off by this much. Companies sometimes slightly overprovision in periods of uncertainty if they know they can sell through the overhung supply later and simply dial back subsequent supply orders while the overhang is cleared through. This may be exactly what Apple did at this time around the iPhone 5's sales cycle, so there internal forecast may have been off by only 10%... Or not at all. Yet, it would still be true from a component supplier's perspective that their order for Q1'13 was cut roughly in half.
This is all grossly oversimplified and entirely hypothetical (though based very roughly on the volume figured you cited). Yet it illustrates the point that there certainly needn't be a 1:1 correlation between supply order changes and actual sellthrough vs forecast. This is only more true in the real world where myriad complexities and order terms can dramatically affect supply chain orders without implying a horrible misforecast by the buyer or any dramatic or unexpected sales trend.
This would make what Tim Cook told investors absolutely correct-- don't overextrapolate from (potentially faulty) supply chain sources. But it would also make the WSJ article perfectly accurate... And nowhere did the article state that Apple's estimates were 50% off nor that investors did or should expect a decrease in demand or even a drastic decrease in growth. So, they were both (potentially) right. Point being, it is faulty to assume a simple 1:1 correlation between supply chain order changes and resultant actual sales vs forecasts, as your post does.
Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales
#186This is an annual story, not super interesting. Nikkei itself actually posted something similar at this time last year: http://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Trends/Parts-makers-brace-fo... > Apple is expected to reduce output of its latest iPhone models by around 30% in the January-March quarter compared with its original plans, according to several parts suppliers. The measure will deal a blow to Japanese and South Korea…
Supply chain stories about Apple get posted all the time, and there is no discernible relationship between what they say and the actual sales volumes the Apple reports in the next 10-Q.
Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales
#187My buddy has purchased every new iPhone on release day since the first version. Every new iPhone except the 7. He said "The one I have now is the last one I'll buy". He's not willing to give up the headphone jack. I expect there are many more like him so a 10% reduction in production is to be expected. To be fair the 7 is slick and nice in a lot of ways.
10% or more reduction in the quarter after the holidays is always to be expected. This is just more of the usual "we need to write about _something_" journalism. Sigh. (PS: anecdotally, 3 family members upgraded to 7s/7s+ in the last month. No complaints about headphone jack, it's really only a huge issue in the internet echo chamber while ordinary people in their vast majority don't care and just use whatever buds c…
Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales
#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
Source on MBP sales? Are these launch sales figures or over a longer-term period?
https://www.google.com/amp/bgr.com/2016/11/22/macbook-pro-20... If they are projecting a great 4th quarter with only a 2-3% drop off in Q1 2017, it's a runaway hit. Q1 is death for computer sales.
I'm not sure how much to extract from this article but it seems a leap to state definitively that "the notebooks have been selling extremely well" and that concerns are mostly bullshit. I have no dog in the fight as I am fine with the MBP overall, but this article cites no hard data. And the sole quote from Apple references only initial sales at their online store. That's good news but it doesn't speak definitively to overall initial sales, let alone multi-month/longer-term sales. The only other quote is from an MBP supply component company and is encouraging but ambiguous and isn't about actual sales but its own internal forecasts.
MBP sales may indeed turn out to be great and these are apparently good signals as to potential, but it'd be premature to conclude from these reports that it is selling "great", relative to either historical periods or to particular expectations, let alone that it will continue to do so if it is.
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple has a real opportunity to modernize iOS a lot and kick Google in the nuts since they are very content sitting on their ass doing practically nothing for Android. - Dark theme. Customization = good. Sends a good message. - More separate volume controls. For me one volume level for notifications and phone ringer is absurd in 2016. - LCD displays, really? The iPhone 7/Plus and the iPad Pro 9.7" are first of Apple'…
> Won't someone give us the option of a 10+mm thick phone with a huge battery in it. This option exists in the form of battery cases.
I'd prefer the bigger battery to be a part of the package.
Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales
#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
it's more efficient, It would need to be to run on the slower processors available to non-Apple companies. You can just do more with Androids What more, specifically?
My biggest examples are: Notifications. You can react immediately to notifications on Android (e.g. respond to a chat message without opening the app). You have them at the front and they are not gone after seeing them once hidden somewhere in a back menu (whcih is kind of important for reminders). Keyboard. I have this phone for a year now? It still doesn't know sh*t about guessing my words. And you can't just slide…
The keyboard and autocomplete is really frustrating. You can custom keyboard, but even with NinType swipe-keyboard installed, it's slow to startup, and I don't use it because it wants me to type whole English words in whole English sentences - and that's not what I want to write in iMessages.