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Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Usually I have upgraded, but I currently have no intention of buying an iPhone 7 or later, unless they fix something! For me it's a double whammy. I don't like the lack of headphone jack, and whereas I feel like I could manage grumpily ... for me it kills the excitement of buying the new device, and I think that is important. (My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgra…

>My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgrade to AirPods The phone comes with a 3.5mm to Lightning adapter, so you can continue to use your existing headphones. Also, you can disable 3D touch and reachability (the double-tap home button thing) in the accessibility settings, if those are causing your issues. >offer a system that just underlines words-thought-to-be-wrong…

"It just works"

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of that list, the waterproofing is the only one that really stands out. The rest are minor, iterative improvements. We're used to Apple making larger leaps on even years (4,5,6) then iterative improvements in odd years (4S, 5S, 6S). But this year they broke that - the 7 feels more like an iPhone 6SS than a 7. Yes, it's better, but it's not "full price for a new phone" better.

Aside from better battery life (better as in 3+ days of use) I can't think of much I'd want in a phone that isn't already there. Camera, display, speed etc are all fine for my needs.

I agree - which is why I, and many others, don't see the need to upgrade. That's the problem Apple is facing.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Usually I have upgraded, but I currently have no intention of buying an iPhone 7 or later, unless they fix something! For me it's a double whammy. I don't like the lack of headphone jack, and whereas I feel like I could manage grumpily ... for me it kills the excitement of buying the new device, and I think that is important. (My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgra…

I can definitely relate to that. Using iOS at this point frustrates me so much that sometimes I pull out my iPhone 4S running iOS 6 to remember what a wonderful UI and UX that was. The bigger problem is the lack of alternatives. Android is such a mess of inconsistencies and bad UX, added to that are the problems with system updates, lack of a proper flagship device (the Pixel is a joke compared to the iPhone 6s in my…

So much this, damn. 2016 felt like everybody was just walking backwards.

I share your sentiment about Google. They look like they only do the minimal effort possible for Android not to die -- and since they get a lot of user data and ad revenue, they're not trying very hard since they're not taking hits in the wallet. That's not good enough for me, and IMO many other people. I personally have been witness to 3 tech-savvy businessmen who were excited to support Android finally give up and go full Apple. It was a pretty sad story listening to their motivation but I can't blame them because I found myself in 99% agreement with them.

I have the Exynos S7 Edge which for me is pretty much the one and only Android device which is close to perfect. I plan holding on to it until I see something that really excites me, until the release of iPhone 7s / 8 that is. If I like the 7s / 8 I'll just buy that and honestly call it quits with smartphones for at least 2 years.

Had enough of being milked for money for practically no upgrades at all for quite a while. Only Samsung and Apple are really trying -- mostly in the internal storage space.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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"Breaking: iPhones sold well around Christmas, sales declined after everyone bought a new one, just like last year. News at 10."

It's more than what you said. Apple is a solid supply chain company and they understand quarter-to-quarter demand changes. It turns out that their Q1 estimates were too high by 10%. The initial estimates already accounted for the cyclical holiday season.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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My buddy has purchased every new iPhone on release day since the first version. Every new iPhone except the 7. He said "The one I have now is the last one I'll buy". He's not willing to give up the headphone jack. I expect there are many more like him so a 10% reduction in production is to be expected. To be fair the 7 is slick and nice in a lot of ways.

> He's not willing to give up the headphone jack.

Give him a couple years. He will.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Usually I have upgraded, but I currently have no intention of buying an iPhone 7 or later, unless they fix something! For me it's a double whammy. I don't like the lack of headphone jack, and whereas I feel like I could manage grumpily ... for me it kills the excitement of buying the new device, and I think that is important. (My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgra…

>My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgrade to AirPods The phone comes with a 3.5mm to Lightning adapter, so you can continue to use your existing headphones. Also, you can disable 3D touch and reachability (the double-tap home button thing) in the accessibility settings, if those are causing your issues. >offer a system that just underlines words-thought-to-be-wrong…

> The phone comes with a 3.5mm to Lightning adapter, so you can continue to use your existing headphones.

Yeah, no. When will I need this dongle? Exactly when I left it somewhere else. Then Apple will need a "Find my Dongle" application next to all the other "Find my*" applications.

I am not going to buy expensive spare dongles just so I don't rage when I realize I left the dongle at work so now I can't listen to music in the garage while I work on my projects. I am not going to carry it around all the time with my phone just in case I need it. The removal of the 3.5mm jack is a failure by Apple.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Usually I have upgraded, but I currently have no intention of buying an iPhone 7 or later, unless they fix something! For me it's a double whammy. I don't like the lack of headphone jack, and whereas I feel like I could manage grumpily ... for me it kills the excitement of buying the new device, and I think that is important. (My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgra…

>My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgrade to AirPods The phone comes with a 3.5mm to Lightning adapter, so you can continue to use your existing headphones. Also, you can disable 3D touch and reachability (the double-tap home button thing) in the accessibility settings, if those are causing your issues. >offer a system that just underlines words-thought-to-be-wrong…

In my experience, the amplification that this adapter provides is not enough for larger headphones.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Apple's losing its mojo in a slow steady drip and there's going to be more of this if they don't get it together soon. Apple used to be synonymous with premium equipment an a "It Just Works" experience. It made it really, really easy to just get the Apple version of anything knowing it was going to be good. My parents need equipment, I get them an iMac, an Airport Extreme, iPhone, iPad, etc...knowing it's all just go…

Agree with most of this but sadly the competitors are so bad they can do all this and still be better.
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