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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by mverwijs » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 7:40 PM UTC

TheDong wrote: post #15

mverwijs wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Linux user in the market for a new laptop: citation needed?

Lenovo's laptops generally have some of the best supported components for linux. This has been true for quite a while now. Most office environments where developers run Linux are full of Thinkpad T4xx, X2xx, and X1s.

I'm typing this on a Lenovo x230, having owned an x210 and x220. However, when such a statement above is made I was hoping that, like Dell, Lenovo had started to officially support Linux.

Hence the question.

Furthermore, Lenovo has been in the news late 2016 for not allowing Linux to run on some of their (Microsoft certified) laptops. And when the t460's and x260's came out early 2016, the Linux distros available at the time had all kinds of issues. Black screens, no Wifi, iirc.

So, again: is there any article that actually point to this laptop running Linux well? Or is it merely based on historical data and personal opinion?

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by Waterluvian » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 7:41 PM UTC

I want to be excited by a good non-Apple laptop. But they're all just so terribly designed. They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy, have grills and screw holes and uneven surfaces and stickers everywhere.

I had a T530 for a few years at my first job and just hated it. It had fantastic specs but it felt awful and unreliable and like I had to babysit it. I got a 2015 MBP to replace it after IT damaged it (broke off a bunch of plastic bits from two grills) and while it was a migraine getting Windows and Ubuntu to dual boot, I don't think twice when closing the lid and slipping it into my backpack to go home. Tossing my backpack into my trunk, or in the overhead carry-on.

I would pay a fortune to have a solid chassis (not case) metal non-Apple laptop available.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by ck__ » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 7:41 PM UTC

will it bend?

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by brightball » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 7:41 PM UTC

mverwijs wrote: post #11

gtaylor wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These supposedly run Linux very well, as another option.

As a Linux user in the market for a new laptop: citation needed?

I kept hearing the same thing and seeing mixed reviews on the Linux commitment since Thinkpad left IBM and went to Lenovo. Seems like there was a big push around Yoga tablet-hybrids that were not Linux friendly for a while.

I ended up going with the Dell Developer Edition Ubuntu laptop line after talking to a few people who swore that their XPS 13 was the greatest thing they'd ever owned. Personally, I went with a beastly 17" Precision because I wanted a desktop replacement. Should be delivered any day now, but I'm excited. Btw, I'm switching from a Mac.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by SallySwanSmith » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 7:43 PM UTC

piker wrote: post #16

Has anyone installed Linux on this machine? If so, how has your experience been with respect to driver support, etc.? Thanks in advance.

Given it's not even fully announced yet, yet alone released... that'd be a no.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by tbrock » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 7:43 PM UTC

This looks like a very nice computer.

I really applaud dell for trying to make the XPS 13 somewhat Linux friendly but they really do feel cheap.

Lenovo thinkpads, while not having the quality they had during the IBM era, are still head and shoulders above Dell in this regard.

This is the Linux laptop to get in 2017.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by plexicle » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 7:43 PM UTC

Waterluvian wrote: post #22

I want to be excited by a good non-Apple laptop. But they're all just so terribly designed. They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy, have grills and screw holes and uneven surfaces and stickers everywhere. I had a T530 for a few years at my first job and just hated it. It had fantastic specs but it felt awful and unreliable and like I had to babysit it. I got a 2015 MBP to replace it after IT damag…

Yoga 910? Spectre x360?

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by mynameisvlad » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 7:43 PM UTC

nfoz wrote: post #19

They didn't fully learn the lesson of the Superfish fiasco: "X1 Carbon is available with Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Signature Edition. No more trialware or unwanted apps. No more distractions—and easy provisioning for IT pros." So do that with every version, and stop feeding people "unwanted apps" altogether. You just admitted that nobody wants them, and this irresponsible attitude is exactly why you got bopped for pre…

"Signature Edition" is a Microsoft concept, not a Lenovo one. [0]

And there will always be trialware and unwanted apps as long as the company gets money from including these. Because who doesn't want free money?

[0]: https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/Signatu...

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by tbrock » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 7:44 PM UTC

Roritharr wrote: post #20

Only 16GB, no Quad-Core option (i'd take an underclocked one at this point :( )... i need more threads and ram on the go, why is that not an option outside of the alienware 13 monstrosity?

You must be trolling. Look at the size of it. The thermals for the quad core chip don't make sense and they can very likely only fit 16gb of ram.

The T series is what you are looking for.

Try find any laptop of that size with 32gb ram and quad core option. It doesn't exist.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by piker » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 7:44 PM UTC

SallySwanSmith wrote: post #25

piker wrote: post #16

Has anyone installed Linux on this machine? If so, how has your experience been with respect to driver support, etc.? Thanks in advance.

Given it's not even fully announced yet, yet alone released... that'd be a no.

Ah, that makes sense. I got really excited by the site and didn't read for content.