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Re: Let's start using DuckDuckGo more often

#121

I tried to use DuckDuckGo and it was terrible. Couldn't even last a week. The results were dramatically worse. And putting aside the quality of results, the actual design of the site is not very good. This is probably a preference, but I find it much easier to quickly scan a Google results page (or even Bing), but DuckDuckGo, with the font face and spacing they use, is not as clear.

Try startpage.com. They fetch the search results from Google without revealing your identity to Google. My primary search engine since more than a year.

Re: Let's start using DuckDuckGo more often

#122
post #103

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How poorly targeted can an ad be when you've told them exactly what you're looking for ? It doesn't get much more targeted than "car dealerships Florida".

Well, if you're looking to buy a Honda, and the ad that gets shown is for the Mercedes Benz dealership, that's pretty crappy targeting.

And all the times I'm shown ads for girls clothing or stoves because of some site I visited, and I am never interested in girls clothing or stoves, is good advertising?

I beg to differ. What it is, is advertising that makes me install an adblocker.

Re: Let's start using DuckDuckGo more often

#125

> I'm getting a feeling that some day in future, DDG is going to become as big as Google, if not supersede it. Well, no, they don't even have their own search engine. > a search engine's results are only as accurate as the number of users who search and contribute to it That makes no sense. Anyway, we don't use DDG because its results are shitty.

The results are extremely shitty indeed, especially for tech and programming related topics. I tried DDG for months and I found myself running every search twice, normally and once with !g appended. That's beyond shitty.

Re: Let's start using DuckDuckGo more often

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I find that the results feel quite bad, but, whenever I actually compared results to Google's, the latter wasn't better at all.

I meant I used to find bad results and used google and found the results were more relevant, I tried to feel duckduckgo's results were better.

Hmm, odd, that doesn't match my experience at all. I realized how bad Google was when I started using DDG and realized that all the bad results in DDG were bad in Google too.

Maybe it improved since you used it?

Re: Let's start using DuckDuckGo more often

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post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How poorly targeted can an ad be when you've told them exactly what you're looking for ? It doesn't get much more targeted than "car dealerships Florida".

Well, if you're looking to buy a Honda, and the ad that gets shown is for the Mercedes Benz dealership, that's pretty crappy targeting.

It is, but there's no better potential for ad targeting than in a search engine, which is what the GP was lamenting. I read their comment as "how can they target ads well if they don't track me?", to which the answer is "they don't need to track you, you've literally told them what you want".

Re: Let's start using DuckDuckGo more often

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I misread your comment. Google does indeed return porny stuff for this, and ddg does not. In both engines, your comment is the top of the search results. :-)

I cringe remembering when I Googled "developer dick image" instead of "disk image" with colleagues watching.

Out of curiosity I Googled that and, for me, Google now auto-corrects it to disk image.

Re: Let's start using DuckDuckGo more often

#129

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Why? The topic is whether or not to use a search engine. This one delivers bad results compared to major ones. Frustratingly bad if you use it enough. I expected such a reply.

There is always a way to show that a search engine is bad with constructive feedback rather than just replying it's "shitty". At least, the OP could have elaborated on why does he thinks this way so that everyone could understand why DDG's results are "shitty". Unfortunately, no one can know what the OP thinks. As a result, it is hurting the work of others without any feedback so that they can improve themselves (i.e…

Alright. I even agree for most comments albeit less for this one. Let's try it your way so the feedback is specific, constructive, inclusive to audiences unfamiliar with grading search, and not profane. Here's my similar experience using the DuckDuckGo, search service after being a long-time user of the Google, search service.

1. I type search terms in text form into Google in an attempt to get a list of results that meet my needs. It virtually always gives me high-quality results I need in top few hits. High-quality means the results help me find what I'm looking for or better understand what my search terms describe. I do this into DuckDuckGo, it often provides low-quality results. Low-quality means the results were not relevant to the text I typed in, they were barely relevant to the text I typed in, or they were relevant but had less utility than results from Google.

2. I do exploratory search with Google by typing in words I think are related to the topic I'm trying to understand. It often gives me high-quality results in the top. If I do it with DuckDuckGo, it gives me low-quality results about as often as high-quality results. I see few patterns in the input that would let me accurately gauge whether inserting specific terms into DuckDuckGo instead of Google would produce as many relevant results I could utilize. This makes me unable to know if use of DuckDuckGo will have as high utility for the time and effort invested vs using Google's service. So, as I default on privacy, I had to try inputting the search terms into DuckDuckGo first with expectation it would often not meet my goals, mentally track what it succeed or failed on, and slowly gain instincts on what search terms to skip DuckDuckGo on in favor of Google to be more time-effective. As a Google user, I didn't have this problem that forced me to profile the search engine to gauge when it was capable of performing a search with high-quality results.

That, in detail, is why I had a poor, user experience with the search service provided by DuckDuckGo. Of course, explained constructively & in detail, it just looks like I think readers on Hacker News are idiots. Even my grandmother knows what a "shitty," "terrible," or "bad" search engine is. Such terms are how laypeople universally describe search functionality that fails to turn their queries into actionable information. They also short-hand what's common knowledge to save time. Describing your search experience in detail to such people will even sound condescending. So, instead I just usually say it's a a hit and miss search engine with result being them nodding their head in understanding. The other commenter apparently thought so, too, condensing it to one word and I still knew what it meant.

Re: Let's start using DuckDuckGo more often

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post #2

I use DuckDuck go as my default search on my machines, but I think the fact that Google is not anonymous does give them a big advantage. An obvious example of this is when I search for "Django" (I am primarily a Django developer). DuckDuckGo will return results about the film as the top hits, whereas Google already knows that I mean Django Web Framework and will return those as the top hits. I appreciate the fact tha…

If that's what's holding you back:

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=django+python
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