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Let's start using DuckDuckGo more often

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Re: Let's start using DuckDuckGo more often

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I use DuckDuck go as my default search on my machines, but I think the fact that Google is not anonymous does give them a big advantage. An obvious example of this is when I search for "Django" (I am primarily a Django developer). DuckDuckGo will return results about the film as the top hits, whereas Google already knows that I mean Django Web Framework and will return those as the top hits. I appreciate the fact tha…

>* the fact that Google is not anonymous does give them a big advantage.* What if DDG allowed us to manually tell them information about our demographic in a way that wasn't stored on their servers and could be changed at will? If you want convenience, maybe there could be an optional client-side preference detector script that only offered possible configurations.

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Re: Let's start using DuckDuckGo more often

#63

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>* the fact that Google is not anonymous does give them a big advantage.* What if DDG allowed us to manually tell them information about our demographic in a way that wasn't stored on their servers and could be changed at will? If you want convenience, maybe there could be an optional client-side preference detector script that only offered possible configurations.

What a drag. So now I have to set up a profile of my ever changing interests on all of my devices just so I can get an approximation of what Google offers out of the box? Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of not using Google, but this seems like a very user hostile way to do it.

Ddg lets you transfer settings cookies using "cloud save", or bookmarklets. Here is a bookmarklet:

https://duckduckgo.com/?kl=jp-jp&kae=t&kt=g

With cloud save, you pick a password, and have to type that in once on each device.

They don't support bubbling, or user profiling, so you can't dump/restore those.

Re: Let's start using DuckDuckGo more often

#64
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I switched to DuckDuckGo as my primary SE and will be using Bing as a fallback. I'm slowly moving as far away from Google as I can. On that note, any good alternatives to G-Suite that aren't necessarily Microsoft O365 (though I'm not against migrating to that either). A straightforward email migration is a big plus, documents not such a big deal.

suggest fastmail.com

I have a question about fastmail: I tried migrating from gmail but the original date of the emails didn't transfer. Anyone knows how to solve it? I had to go back to gmail since it's a deal breaker and I couldn't find a solution, but I really want to leave gmail (so I can have a direct relationship with the service provider without advertisers involve)

Re: Let's start using DuckDuckGo more often

#65

> I'm getting a feeling that some day in future, DDG is going to become as big as Google, if not supersede it. Well, no, they don't even have their own search engine. > a search engine's results are only as accurate as the number of users who search and contribute to it That makes no sense. Anyway, we don't use DDG because its results are shitty.

And after 10 years or so of trying, you'd expect the results to be far better, and more people to use it.

I think the search engine space is very ripe for a startup, but duckduckgo isn't it IMHO.

Re: Let's start using DuckDuckGo more often

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I find myself often doing a two- or three-step search with DDG. First I search for a thing on DDG. Then if I get something back like Django the movie instead of Django the framework, I'll search the thing again on DDG with some sort of specializing term, e.g. "python." Lastly, I almost always end up searching with "!g thing + specializing term(s)." I love the idea of DDG, and I'm delighted on the rare occasion that I…

Really? I've been using DDG exclusively for a few months, and whenever I get unsatisfactory results, I retry with !g. Invariably, I get equally unsatisfactory results with Google. Maybe in some rare cases where I'm searching for something esoteric, Google will return an extra page or two, but that's not very frequent.

Maybe I'm searching in a way that biases in favor of Google? I'm willing to stick with DDG-first on principle alone, so perhaps DDG getting better + me figuring out subtlety of search will improve things.

Re: Let's start using DuckDuckGo more often

#67

DDG has been my default search for the last few years and I only very rarely use it for it's native search results. The bang (!) search syntax is by far the biggest reason I use it. It allows me to search sooooo many websites directly from the address bar. If you want normal Google search results, use !g. If you want Google Images, use !gi. Amazon? !a. Wikipedia? !w. The list goes on and on and on. Edit: grammar.

yeah the various bangs are hugely useful to me on my phone particularly, it's a very light weight interface to the internet.

Re: Let's start using DuckDuckGo more often

#68

> I'm getting a feeling that some day in future, DDG is going to become as big as Google, if not supersede it. Well, no, they don't even have their own search engine. > a search engine's results are only as accurate as the number of users who search and contribute to it That makes no sense. Anyway, we don't use DDG because its results are shitty.

sure, the results are shitty, but you don't support big brother by using it... which is its primary appeal, afaik.

And I could just not use a computer, then I wouldn't be supporting big brother either....not supporting big brother is not an excuse to have shitty results, at least for most people.

Re: Let's start using DuckDuckGo more often

#70
>I'm getting a feeling that some day in future, DDG is going to become as big as Google, if not supersede it

If they become bigger than Google what's to stop them from becoming another Google?

Why punish myself by using an inferior service just to give it the seat at the big 5?

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