Let me know when the government wakes up and inverts the food pyramid, so that breads and grains and carbs are scarce, rather than fats.
This should happen but likely won't since carbs are more plentiful and easier to obtain.
US government to withdraw longstanding warnings about cholesterol (2015)
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Re: US government to withdraw longstanding warnings about cholesterol (2015)
#32Wouldn't it be nice if there were more government warnings and less restrictions / regulations? Imagine if the FDA, instead of blocking new drugs for 10 years and $1B, it simply withheld its endorsement until satisfied by the clinical trials. Consumers could then take the government's recommendations into consideration when making a decision and drugs could get to market much faster. The history of medical reversals…
> Wouldn't it be nice if there were more government warnings and less restrictions / regulations? ... A whole raft of restrictions could be converted to warnings and recommendations, freeing up industry to innovate
No, not without specific examples of how government regulations are a burden on innovation. Whenever people argue this point in industry X it always seems difficult to come up with concrete examples.
> and consumers to take a little more responsibility for themselves.
Secondly, again no. Consumers are not rational machines who make rational decisions based on time spent researching what they are consuming.
Re: US government to withdraw longstanding warnings about cholesterol (2015)
#33There is so much that 'everybody knows' about nutrition that is pure bullshit peddled by farmers, agribusiness and processed food companies. Just one example-- that fat causes heart disease. Pure nonsense pushed by the soda and sugar industry. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/apr/07/the-sugar-co... Just eat a balanced diet, don't overeat, and don't eat too much processed food and red meat, and you'll probably…
Sugar does and you can see this in the basic biochemistry of the TCA cycle. Too much sugar gets converted to fat!!
Re: US government to withdraw longstanding warnings about cholesterol (2015)
#34Wouldn't it be nice if there were more government warnings and less restrictions / regulations? Imagine if the FDA, instead of blocking new drugs for 10 years and $1B, it simply withheld its endorsement until satisfied by the clinical trials. Consumers could then take the government's recommendations into consideration when making a decision and drugs could get to market much faster. The history of medical reversals…
> Imagine if the FDA, instead of blocking new drugs for 10 years and $1B, it simply withheld its endorsement until satisfied by the clinical trials. Consumers could then take the government's recommendations into consideration when making a decision and drugs could get to market much faster. I'd go one step further. Give the FDA competition. Have private companies (similar to UL for electronics) that can endorse and…
That worked out really well for the banking industry. You really want a similar scheme for medical care?
Re: US government to withdraw longstanding warnings about cholesterol (2015)
#35Wouldn't it be nice if there were more government warnings and less restrictions / regulations? Imagine if the FDA, instead of blocking new drugs for 10 years and $1B, it simply withheld its endorsement until satisfied by the clinical trials. Consumers could then take the government's recommendations into consideration when making a decision and drugs could get to market much faster. The history of medical reversals…
> Imagine if the FDA, instead of blocking new drugs for 10 years and $1B, it simply withheld its endorsement until satisfied by the clinical trials. Consumers could then take the government's recommendations into consideration when making a decision and drugs could get to market much faster. I'd go one step further. Give the FDA competition. Have private companies (similar to UL for electronics) that can endorse and…
Do not want. See the role of Moodys and S&P in the 2009 meltdown for what a profit motive does to the ability to "endorse" anything that has the potential to harm.
Re: US government to withdraw longstanding warnings about cholesterol (2015)
#36Let me know when the government wakes up and inverts the food pyramid, so that breads and grains and carbs are scarce, rather than fats.
Carbohydrates are not a bad thing and are indeed an important part of health. The current suggested diet doesn't say, 'bread'. It specifically calls out Whole Grains, which a great deal of evidence suggests are a Good Thing. Suggesting that grains, or even carbs, are somehow worse than literal fat is misleading at best, and delusional at it's worst.
I'm referring to the original 1992 food pyramid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_pyramid_(nutrition)#/medi...
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> Fats, oils, sweets: sparingly
> Bread, cereal, rice & pasta: 6-11 servings
Yes I am in the camp that believe fats and proteins are both much healthier than carbs, and especially refined sugars. The latest nutrition supports low carb diets, as can be seen with Atkins and Keto diets.
Re: US government to withdraw longstanding warnings about cholesterol (2015)
#37Just eat in moderation and try to maintain healthy weight. The last time I checked, average woman in the U.S. is 5'4" but weighs 165lbs; average man clocks in at nearly 200lbs. We can do better.
Sweet I'm above average!! ;)
Re: US government to withdraw longstanding warnings about cholesterol (2015)
#38There is so much that 'everybody knows' about nutrition that is pure bullshit peddled by farmers, agribusiness and processed food companies. Just one example-- that fat causes heart disease. Pure nonsense pushed by the soda and sugar industry. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/apr/07/the-sugar-co... Just eat a balanced diet, don't overeat, and don't eat too much processed food and red meat, and you'll probably…
"Balanced diet" is the terminology that's honestly hard to define. Until we have that definition, "a variety of types of food" seems better to me. Here, let me offer a correction: "Eat a variety of foods, avoiding large amounts of any one thing, and don't overeat; you'll probably be fine."
"Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."
- Michael Pollan
Re: US government to withdraw longstanding warnings about cholesterol (2015)
#39Let me know when the government wakes up and inverts the food pyramid, so that breads and grains and carbs are scarce, rather than fats.
Carbohydrates are not a bad thing and are indeed an important part of health. The current suggested diet doesn't say, 'bread'. It specifically calls out Whole Grains, which a great deal of evidence suggests are a Good Thing. Suggesting that grains, or even carbs, are somehow worse than literal fat is misleading at best, and delusional at it's worst.
The phrase "literal fat" shows just how successful the misguided low-fat crusade was: they don't even need any modifiers to show that they're "bad."
At any rate, it's very easy to design a diet for humans without grains in it that's healthy and that you can thrive on, but impossible to design one without fat. So in that respect at least, literal fat is better than grains.
Re: US government to withdraw longstanding warnings about cholesterol (2015)
#40"Eat food, not too much, mostly plants." - Michael Pollan
The oft-cited and never-defined Tautology Diet.