Technical report on DNC hack [pdf]

Post by mistermann » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 1:59 AM UTC

mundo wrote: post #298

CountSessine wrote: post #287

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Except that this is a sort of exclusion of the middle; you say " here's the alternative theory ", but there are other even more likely possibilities. Here's one: 1. The DNC and their members are generally ignorant of good security policy and had an easily hacked system. 2. Some Russian intelligence agency hacked the DNC's email servers. 3. A bunch of other people/hackers/groups hacked the DNC's email servers, as it w…

Point 7 is the one you're supposed to be trying to explain. The FBI, CIA, DHS and NSA have all said, in plain language, no anonymous sources, just regular old press releases, that Russia hacked the DNC. The reasons they might say this are a) they believe it due to some evidence they are not releasing, and b) ???. Theory a) seems pretty believable, and I haven't heard a b) that sounds remotely plausible yet. Whether s…

Post by mistermann » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 2:01 AM UTC

mundo wrote: post #286

wooter wrote: post #276

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Seriously. Clapper lied directly to congress under oath on TV. The whole "they know whats best for us and our only choice is blind faith" attitude is really disturbing.

> The whole "they know whats best for us and our only choice is blind faith" attitude is really disturbing. This is so, so insulting. There is no way a fair observer could read the comments here and conclude that the people who find Russia hacking the DNC credible do so because they have blind faith in Clapper or the FBI or anyone else.

Post by barney54 » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 2:04 AM UTC

nickbauman wrote: post #223

eropple wrote: post #133

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> This attacks could be easily mitigated. [...] second, we should start using physical cryptographic keys instead of passwords Man--I like the way you think, I really do, but this is not "easy". Technical simplicity and social ease are vastly different, and it's usually the humans who are getting hacked.

I think it's a generational thing. Americans of a certain vocation and certain age and older tend to have no idea about how this whole Internet thing works. No matter what their education level or achievement level. Obama held onto his Blackberry for almost 2 years after SS told him you can't use that thing. I suspect what needs to happen is each branch of government needs to have infosec people assigned to it that s…

Post by learc83 » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 2:13 AM UTC

LargeCompanies wrote: post #269

Ummm what piece of information in the leak caused Clinton to lose? Reality check nothing because there were no bombshells found like James Coomey re-opening the FBI's investigation against that woman. A woman who nationally especially compared to Obama is highly unlikeable with a horrible public image. Though we're stuck with that crazy man... losing game either way!

Post by mistermann » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 2:14 AM UTC

rogerthis wrote: post #304

mundo wrote: post #85

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The "evidence" cited is not the handful of unclassified details included, it's the fact that the FBI and DHS are willing to go on record publicly accusing Russia. There are no asterisks or weasel-words or "allegedly"s. Just a clear "Russia did it." There are only two possible explanations for that: 1) A massive conspiracy in which the leaders of practically the entirety of the US military/intelligence community are w…

If the 1 hypothesis were true, then the conspirator would be betting there will be no "incoming administration", not very soon, i'd say. If the 2 were true, there would be also some conspiration to keep those important infomations classified. Also, I can't help thinking about Snowden and the blown whistle of the NSA spying scheme.