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Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by ggregoire »

homero wrote: post #148
eddieroger wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That has never been true. Sure it has. When software existed on physical media and there was a real, material cost with distribution of software, there was absolutely a done state. Waterfall software development and actual requirement control would clearly define done states. That's not to say that there weren't bug fixes and updates, but it was (and is) possible to define what an application should do, code it to…

Definitely true, now video games on discs are manufactured completely broken or even mostly empty and they make you download 50gb on launch day

Are you talking about Final Fantasy XV? This case is ridiculous, they are even modifying the story after the launch day. It would be like releasing a movie and changing the end one week after the release because of the bad reviews. Hopefuly the sales of FFXV are relatively bad.

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

whyagaindavid wrote: post #149
valarauca1 wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Password sync in browser is a piss-poor password manager solution. You should just use a password manager

Why is password sync in browser bad? Care to explain? I hate to have another password application; Dropbox sync t everywhere. Remember Firefox sync encrypts everything before upload. So does chrome.

Well, for one, for most of the life of your browser, it took no security for anyone staring at your desktop screen to read plaintext versions of all your passwords. (Yes, physical access is complete access and all, but there used to not even be a casual attempt to prevent someone from stopping by your PC when you stepped away having a look at your passwords quickly.)

Later versions of Chrome, IIRC, will trigger a UAC prompt on Windows before displaying passwords, or something similar.

It's also generally been trivial for software to mine saved passwords from all browsers. I'm not fond of password managers personally, I prefer outright memorization, but password managers generally at least try to keep their contents secure, usually.

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

Quenz wrote: post #93
reitanqild wrote: post #30

For me Chrome is already the new IE: good enough to saturate the market to the point where devs stops caring about standards compliance. Personally I have tried to like it, multiple times but I always get annoyed and go back to FF. But then again I prefer Linux over Mac and Netbeans over IntelliJ so maybe it's just me.

I used to switch between Chrome and Firefox all the time before finally Chrome won me over with the most convenient cloud sync for bookmarks, passwords, etc.

What did you like about Chrome's sync that Firefox sync didn't do (well)?

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by jrcii »

I use this for a school I administer. The GPO for Chrome is okay but not nearly granular enough. I ended up having to block chrome://* to get the level of restriction I needed.

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by jokr004 »

reitanqild wrote: post #30

For me Chrome is already the new IE: good enough to saturate the market to the point where devs stops caring about standards compliance. Personally I have tried to like it, multiple times but I always get annoyed and go back to FF. But then again I prefer Linux over Mac and Netbeans over IntelliJ so maybe it's just me.

You mean.. it's not just me? There's someone else who likes Netbeans?? I thought this day would never come!

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

#166

Post by riprowan »

tomelders wrote: post #138
DougN7 wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I question if you've worked with large enterprises. They freeze everything for a decade or more. Think about a bank with 500 offices, a dozen tellers at each office. Having their internal web app that everyone uses go down because of an auto upgrade could cost them hundreds of millions. They have a very different risk appetite.

Ive actually been working in banks mainly. But on the business side. At the upper echelons there is a real appetite for change. Banks realise that they have become software companies, but that their businesses are groaning under the weight of antiquated systems and processes and it is holding them back. But even the board can only affect so much. The only reason an auto update would take down an app is if all develop…

Dev stops. That's reality. If you hand-wave it away, your tellers go down, and you, the CIO, lose your job.

Not all software is under your direct control. Once business processes achieve a stable working state, it is imperative that they maintain uptime, sometimes in excess of six-sigma uptime.

Imagine your business is NASA. Are you going to let mission systems auto-update 18 secs before launch?

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by kozak »

Chrome is the new IE. Enterprise apps are being developer with the assumption that they will only even be run on Chrome, and become fragile because of that assumption. A recent example: someone has set up a race condition of timers that was only working (i.e. resolving in a specific order that is needed for the app to work) in Webkit-based browsers. No one cared to fix that, because it did work in Chrome, and that's all that's needed.

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

#168

Post by shandor »

ggregoire wrote: post #161
homero wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely true, now video games on discs are manufactured completely broken or even mostly empty and they make you download 50gb on launch day

Are you talking about Final Fantasy XV? This case is ridiculous, they are even modifying the story after the launch day. It would be like releasing a movie and changing the end one week after the release because of the bad reviews. Hopefuly the sales of FFXV are relatively bad.

Sorry but why is that a bad thing?

I can understand that it's "bad" that their story was lacking at release, but isn't it awesome that they'd go to such lengths to serve fans and buyers and have a good product in the end, if not in the beginning?

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by neiled »

tomelders wrote: post #138
DougN7 wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I question if you've worked with large enterprises. They freeze everything for a decade or more. Think about a bank with 500 offices, a dozen tellers at each office. Having their internal web app that everyone uses go down because of an auto upgrade could cost them hundreds of millions. They have a very different risk appetite.

Ive actually been working in banks mainly. But on the business side. At the upper echelons there is a real appetite for change. Banks realise that they have become software companies, but that their businesses are groaning under the weight of antiquated systems and processes and it is holding them back. But even the board can only affect so much. The only reason an auto update would take down an app is if all develop…

Not only does Dev stop, but the people that built the app, agreed on the specs and really understood it, all left too. Auto update is unfortunately something that's just not worth the risk in a lot of cases.

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by tomelders »

riprowan wrote: post #166
tomelders wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ive actually been working in banks mainly. But on the business side. At the upper echelons there is a real appetite for change. Banks realise that they have become software companies, but that their businesses are groaning under the weight of antiquated systems and processes and it is holding them back. But even the board can only affect so much. The only reason an auto update would take down an app is if all develop…

Dev stops. That's reality. If you hand-wave it away, your tellers go down, and you, the CIO, lose your job. Not all software is under your direct control. Once business processes achieve a stable working state, it is imperative that they maintain uptime, sometimes in excess of six-sigma uptime. Imagine your business is NASA. Are you going to let mission systems auto-update 18 secs before launch?

I think we can all agree that NASA is a special case.

Also, is it 100% true that they dont update software on actuve systems mid mission?

What if they discover a critical bug?

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