Nintendo releases original Zelda design docs

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Post by jlturner » Wed, Dec 28, 2016, 4:32 PM UTC

Nintendo releases original Zelda design docs
nintendo.co.uk

Re: Nintendo releases original Zelda design docs

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Post by CaptSpify » Wed, Dec 28, 2016, 7:26 PM UTC

Can we have the url point to https://www.nintendo.co.uk/News/2016/December/Take-a-look-be... (the original) instead? I didn't see gamasutra adding anything worthwhile

Re: Nintendo releases original Zelda design docs

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Post by dang » Wed, Dec 28, 2016, 7:59 PM UTC

CaptSpify wrote: post #2

Can we have the url point to https://www.nintendo.co.uk/News/2016/December/Take-a-look-be... (the original) instead? I didn't see gamasutra adding anything worthwhile

Sure, we changed to that from http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/288293/Nintendo_digs_up_o.... Thanks!

Re: Nintendo releases original Zelda design docs

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Post by gallerdude » Wed, Dec 28, 2016, 8:33 PM UTC

Even as a programmer, I appreciate having the vision of the game first and figuring out how to program it second.

Re: Nintendo releases original Zelda design docs

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Post by jfroma » Wed, Dec 28, 2016, 8:45 PM UTC

gallerdude wrote: post #4

Even as a programmer, I appreciate having the vision of the game first and figuring out how to program it second.

Agree! I think in this case these drawing have a lot of implementation details. It is actually the pattern table, the palette etc.

Re: Nintendo releases original Zelda design docs

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Dec 28, 2016, 8:49 PM UTC

jfroma wrote: post #5

gallerdude wrote: post #4

Even as a programmer, I appreciate having the vision of the game first and figuring out how to program it second.

Agree! I think in this case these drawing have a lot of implementation details. It is actually the pattern table, the palette etc.

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Re: Nintendo releases original Zelda design docs

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Dec 28, 2016, 8:49 PM UTC

jfroma wrote: post #5

gallerdude wrote: post #4

Even as a programmer, I appreciate having the vision of the game first and figuring out how to program it second.

Agree! I think in this case these drawing have a lot of implementation details. It is actually the pattern table, the palette etc.

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Re: Nintendo releases original Zelda design docs

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Post by richardboegli » Wed, Dec 28, 2016, 9:02 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #3

CaptSpify wrote: post #2

Can we have the url point to https://www.nintendo.co.uk/News/2016/December/Take-a-look-be... (the original) instead? I didn't see gamasutra adding anything worthwhile

Sure, we changed to that from http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/288293/Nintendo_digs_up_o... . Thanks!

By manually changing it you've overridden the dupe post check. I posted this Nintendo article 5 days ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13240858 https://www.nintendo.co.uk/News/2016/December/Take-a-look-be...

It can be seen in the search: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=https:%2F%2Fwww.nintendo.co.uk...

Re: Nintendo releases original Zelda design docs

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Post by dang » Wed, Dec 28, 2016, 9:10 PM UTC

richardboegli wrote: post #8

dang wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, we changed to that from http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/288293/Nintendo_digs_up_o... . Thanks!

By manually changing it you've overridden the dupe post check. I posted this Nintendo article 5 days ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13240858 https://www.nintendo.co.uk/News/2016/December/Take-a-look-be... It can be seen in the search: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=https:%2F%2Fwww.nintendo.co.uk...

By HN's standards it doesn't count as a dupe, because the previous submission didn't get attention. See the bit about reposts in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html.

In other words, even if the nintendo.co.uk URL had been the submitted one, HN's software would have happily let it through. This is by design. It gives good stories multiple cracks at the bat, in the hope of compensating for the randomness of the lottery on /newest.

We do have a few tricks to try to reward the original submission of a good story, and eventually we intend to work on more sophisticated dupe detection that will reward the original submitter more. In the meantime, there's still a fair bit of randomness. But if an account submits lots of good stories, it evens out.

Re: Nintendo releases original Zelda design docs

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Post by deepsun » Wed, Dec 28, 2016, 9:13 PM UTC

gallerdude wrote: post #4

Even as a programmer, I appreciate having the vision of the game first and figuring out how to program it second.

But don't forget that today it's often faster to program it first without a plan, and rewrite it a few times later; than to draw such nice design plans and iterate on them before writing actual code. Also, in some cases, writing actual code reveals some unforeseen problems in design.