Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

Post by masklinn » Wed, Dec 28, 2016, 4:31 PM UTC

wiuhilfhuegihuf wrote: post #97

masklinn wrote: post #55

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> France looking good but they're paying for that green color. French electricity prices to households are below european average and half the German or Danish prices. They're not the lowest in the EU but they're the lowest in Western Europe — unless you include scandinavia and even then they're competitive: http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/... French prices are lower than Belgium's, Denmar…

they mean the cost of the nuclear plants (construction, decommissioning, waste-storage and security) not the price of the electricity

Post by sschueller » Wed, Dec 28, 2016, 4:36 PM UTC

noselasd wrote: post #58

andreasley wrote: post #46

I've noticed that Switzerland, using a lot of hydropower, has a worse intensity than I expected. The CO2 numbers for the different types of power generation seem to come from Wikipedia [1], where Hydropower has a median gCO2eq/kWh of 24 and a maximum of 2200 – much worse than coal. This seems to be based on the fact that large areas may be flooded when filling the dam initially, and CO2 from rotting plants is release…

> I've noticed that Switzerland, using a lot of hydropower, has a worse intensity than I expected. The carbon intensity on the map seems to be for consumed kWh, not produced kWh. The map indicates Switzerland imports a lot of electricity from Austria and Germany which have a much higher carbon intensity.

Post by necessity » Wed, Dec 28, 2016, 4:39 PM UTC

noselasd wrote: post #58

andreasley wrote: post #46

I've noticed that Switzerland, using a lot of hydropower, has a worse intensity than I expected. The CO2 numbers for the different types of power generation seem to come from Wikipedia [1], where Hydropower has a median gCO2eq/kWh of 24 and a maximum of 2200 – much worse than coal. This seems to be based on the fact that large areas may be flooded when filling the dam initially, and CO2 from rotting plants is release…

> I've noticed that Switzerland, using a lot of hydropower, has a worse intensity than I expected. The carbon intensity on the map seems to be for consumed kWh, not produced kWh. The map indicates Switzerland imports a lot of electricity from Austria and Germany which have a much higher carbon intensity.

Post by billybofh » Wed, Dec 28, 2016, 4:40 PM UTC

j4mie wrote: post #30

avar wrote: post #5

Does anyone know of interesting tours you can take of electricity production in Europe or energy infrastructure in general? I'm in The Netherlands, but would be willing to travel for it. A real tour of a nuclear plant would be awesome (i.e. getting to hear / see the reactor), but tours of wind farms / turbines / dams etc. would also be great. Preferably in English.

Travel to the island of Islay (off the west coast of Scotland) and head to the tiny village of Portnahaven. From there, walk north along the coast for half an hour or so and look out for the Islay LIMPET, the world's first commercial wave power device connected to the United Kingdom's National Grid. It looks like this (photo I took when I was there earlier in the year) https://www.instagram.com/p/BD1Ao-1IaXi/ Details…

Post by ollifi » Wed, Dec 28, 2016, 4:41 PM UTC

ptaipale wrote: post #92

allendoerfer wrote: post #71

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At least Germany is not putting its neighbours at risk with rotten nuclear plants. Looking at you, Belgium [0]. Also, Germany does not export its nuclear waste, dear France [1]. The current situation with coal is bad and we have to solve it. And I know HN is pro nuclear and downvotes opposing opinions, but history has proven several times, that nuclear energy is not a very good option, either. [0] http://www.dw.com/e…

These incidents are an exception to the rule where coal is worse every other day of the year , as well as when looking at the total. Chernobyl was the decisive moment for me: you have the Soviets screwing it up in the worst way possible, my home place in southern Finland being one of the most affected places on Earth due to winds in April 1986, and the results are not worse than this? Bring it on, it's surely better…