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Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

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Re: Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

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Post by lottin »

jonenst wrote: post #83

It's a nice visualization, but cpu usage shoots through the roof ! Deleting the animated arrows between the countries helps a bit, but then it still uses around 50% cpu (and that's on a fast desktop computer. Can't imagine my laptop trying to display this page). Using Ubuntu + firefox (it's a little better with chromium). Is it a problem with this page ? With my setup ? Or is it just impossible to do something of thi…

Same here. It was already sluggish and using a lot of CPU power but as soon as I clicked on the check-boxes the whole thing ground to a halt... took 30 seconds to close the tab.

I really like the idea though.

Re: Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

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Post by ptaipale »

allendoerfer wrote: post #71
antr wrote: post #63

Germany... your anti-nuclear stance is detrimental to the environment...

At least Germany is not putting its neighbours at risk with rotten nuclear plants. Looking at you, Belgium [0]. Also, Germany does not export its nuclear waste, dear France [1]. The current situation with coal is bad and we have to solve it. And I know HN is pro nuclear and downvotes opposing opinions, but history has proven several times, that nuclear energy is not a very good option, either. [0] http://www.dw.com/e…

These incidents are an exception to the rule where coal is worse every other day of the year, as well as when looking at the total.

Chernobyl was the decisive moment for me: you have the Soviets screwing it up in the worst way possible, my home place in southern Finland being one of the most affected places on Earth due to winds in April 1986, and the results are not worse than this? Bring it on, it's surely better than coal.

Re: Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

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Post by usrusr »

noselasd wrote: post #58
andreasley wrote: post #46

I've noticed that Switzerland, using a lot of hydropower, has a worse intensity than I expected. The CO2 numbers for the different types of power generation seem to come from Wikipedia [1], where Hydropower has a median gCO2eq/kWh of 24 and a maximum of 2200 – much worse than coal. This seems to be based on the fact that large areas may be flooded when filling the dam initially, and CO2 from rotting plants is release…

> I've noticed that Switzerland, using a lot of hydropower, has a worse intensity than I expected. The carbon intensity on the map seems to be for consumed kWh, not produced kWh. The map indicates Switzerland imports a lot of electricity from Austria and Germany which have a much higher carbon intensity.

Also, if it is really live data, all the high alpine hydro is just pumped storage now. In winter, the high reservoirs don't get much natural feed when no ice is thawing and any new precipitation will decoratively stick to the slopes until spring.

Re: Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

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Post by finchisko »

skocznymroczny wrote: post #89
finchisko wrote: post #2

Poland what the uck are you doing? Literally black spot on EU map. Stop burning that much coal. Fix it ASAP.

We have coal, so we use it, like other countries did before. Wind/solar farms don't work well here because of the weather and are expensive. Nuclear plants would require foreign technology which is very costly, and so far nuclear plants here are just a dream, a way to drain the public funds into the pockets of "nuclear plant construction" committee, which doesn't do anything useful (it doesn't help that the public op…

Don't be mad at me, but basically what are you saying is: "Screw you all, screw the planet, flood after us...". You should really not use argument: "you did it, so we will also do it", because when "we" did it, there was probably no other way. And now is. It's 2016, you can't burn coal in rate like it was 15th century. It won't help us transition to clean energy anyhow.

Re: Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

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Post by blondie9x »

This is one of the great things we can do as developers. We can help society learn about the problems humanity faces. Creating amazing visualizations and experiences to educate the world and potentially encourage action to solve some of our biggest problems.

Hopefully we can drive awareness and change together.

Re: Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

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Post by wiuhilfhuegihuf »

masklinn wrote: post #55
vndjvjbnvs wrote: post #15

Would be nice to see this displayed relative to population/demand. France looking good but they're paying for that green color.

> France looking good but they're paying for that green color. French electricity prices to households are below european average and half the German or Danish prices. They're not the lowest in the EU but they're the lowest in Western Europe — unless you include scandinavia and even then they're competitive: http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/... French prices are lower than Belgium's, Denmar…

they mean the cost of the nuclear plants (construction, decommissioning, waste-storage and security) not the price of the electricity

Re: Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

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Post by rihegher »

avar wrote: post #5

Does anyone know of interesting tours you can take of electricity production in Europe or energy infrastructure in general? I'm in The Netherlands, but would be willing to travel for it. A real tour of a nuclear plant would be awesome (i.e. getting to hear / see the reactor), but tours of wind farms / turbines / dams etc. would also be great. Preferably in English.

You can visit the one in Gravelines which has 6 reactors and is not too far from The Netherlands. https://www.edf.fr/groupe-edf/producteur-industriel/carte-de...

Re: Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

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Post by TillE »

melling wrote: post #37
_ph_ wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, if you read those conversations, you might notice that people think that - nuclear is very expensive - nuclear has a waste and risk problem - wind and solar are price competitive and very environment friendly

Wind kills lots of birds. http://www.audubon.org/news/will-wind-turbines-ever-be-safe-... Add 100x the current number and we'll have a big problem. Downvoted to hell because "We don't like what you're saying". Wind has a negative. it's just a fact, not an opinion.

This is akin to complaining that your cancer treatment causes your hair to fall out. Yes it's unfortunate, but it's also a crucial part of the only realistic solution we have to far more urgent problems.

Re: Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

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Post by acd »

How much co2 is coming from electric energy, food and transportation?

One should in general switch over to clean power sources.

One way to cut down on ones own carbon emissions is to stop eating beef as cows release a lot of methane. km https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/21/giving-u... http://shrinkthatfootprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/fo... https://priceofmeat.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/b8850198-f13... http://shrinkthatfootprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/fo...

In Sweden one uses 8000kwh of electricity per year. 58g/kwh = 464000grams, 464kg co2.

Average car co2 emissions around 120g/km. Average distance driven here around 15000km. 12015000=1800000grams 1800kg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_cons...

Co2 emissions of meat 13300g/kg, average meat consumtion 80kg. 8013300=1064000grams 1060kg of co2 from meat.

adding the above. 464kg+1800kg+1060=3324kg, still missing some to add up to per capita consumption. What co2 source is missing?

Co2 emission per capita of Sweden 4.6 ton, 4600kg. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_di...

Sustainable co2 per capita 1.7tones. I am over consuming 2900kg of co2. Stop driving car and stop eating meat reduces emissions about 2800kg.

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