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Re: Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

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Post by witty_username »

masklinn wrote: post #51
dantheman wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be next to impossible to get access to a commissioned nuclear powerplant and enter containment as a visitor. However, there is a nuclear power plant in vienna that was never used and can be visited: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwentendorf_Nuclear_Power_Plan... Additionally, many universities have research reactors - they often have tours or a tour can be easily arranged.

> It would be next to impossible to get access to a commissioned nuclear powerplant and enter containment as a visitor. Pish posh, it's absolutely possible to visit active nuclear plants, usually for free, though you may need a small group (half a dozen or more) depending on the operator.

But can you enter containment?

Re: Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

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Post by skoob »

masklinn wrote: post #56
zhte415 wrote: post #52

Fascinating to see the potential use, vs. the actual 'right now' capacity viewing this at 3pm GMT. And also interesting to see the import/export power figures: How one region supports, though nothing like the capacity needed to substitute renewables' variance. France is really leading consistency of capacity vs. generation with Nuclear. France also seems to have 4 times hydro capacity of Portugal, which is interestin…

> Why is Norway consuming 22GW but UK only about 40-45GW, and Germand 60-65GW, given the great disparity in population of Norway? Electric heating? Lower temperatures? Oslo is currently freezing (below 0C), neither London nor Berlin are.

Norway uses a lot of electricity for energy intensive industries like aluminium production.

Re: Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

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Post by zhte415 »

masklinn wrote: post #56
zhte415 wrote: post #52

Fascinating to see the potential use, vs. the actual 'right now' capacity viewing this at 3pm GMT. And also interesting to see the import/export power figures: How one region supports, though nothing like the capacity needed to substitute renewables' variance. France is really leading consistency of capacity vs. generation with Nuclear. France also seems to have 4 times hydro capacity of Portugal, which is interestin…

> Why is Norway consuming 22GW but UK only about 40-45GW, and Germand 60-65GW, given the great disparity in population of Norway? Electric heating? Lower temperatures? Oslo is currently freezing (below 0C), neither London nor Berlin are.

Perhaps. Both Norway and Finland have a population of a little more than 5 million, but Finland is at about 10GW, so a difference of double. Sweden at around 20MW net which is consistent with Finland pro-rata.

Did Norway just decide to do all-electric heating as vastly all electric power, as displayed here, comes from hydro?

Just idle curiosity.

Re: Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

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Post by zhte415 »

skoob wrote: post #62
masklinn wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why is Norway consuming 22GW but UK only about 40-45GW, and Germand 60-65GW, given the great disparity in population of Norway? Electric heating? Lower temperatures? Oslo is currently freezing (below 0C), neither London nor Berlin are.

Norway uses a lot of electricity for energy intensive industries like aluminium production.

Thanks

Re: Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

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Post by ajmurmann »

_ph_ wrote: post #19
melling wrote: post #4

Nuclear FTW. Of course, it always loses in any HN conversation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13234463

Well, if you read those conversations, you might notice that people think that - nuclear is very expensive - nuclear has a waste and risk problem - wind and solar are price competitive and very environment friendly

If you look at German power generation at this very moment you will see that they have huge wind and solar capacity, but the energy right now is mainly coming from coal. I'm not sure if I should prefer nuclear or coal to step in in these wind still winter days. Of course more energy storage would be even better.

Re: Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

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Post by open-source-ux »

vndjvjbnvs wrote: post #15

Would be nice to see this displayed relative to population/demand. France looking good but they're paying for that green color.

Worth looking at this: Electricity prices for household consumers [EU], second half 2015

http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/...

The UK has the highest basic rate for electricity, but one of the lowest VAT levels (5%) and no further levies. Most other EU countries have additional energy taxes in addition to VAT. France is below the EU average.

Re: Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

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Post by merraksh »

melling wrote: post #37
_ph_ wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, if you read those conversations, you might notice that people think that - nuclear is very expensive - nuclear has a waste and risk problem - wind and solar are price competitive and very environment friendly

Wind kills lots of birds. http://www.audubon.org/news/will-wind-turbines-ever-be-safe-... Add 100x the current number and we'll have a big problem. Downvoted to hell because "We don't like what you're saying". Wind has a negative. it's just a fact, not an opinion.

Adding 100x will still have wind turbines 100 times more innocuous than cats [0].

[0] http://www.treehugger.com/renewable-energy/north-america-win...

Re: Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in European countries

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Post by Aqwis »

zhte415 wrote: post #64
masklinn wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why is Norway consuming 22GW but UK only about 40-45GW, and Germand 60-65GW, given the great disparity in population of Norway? Electric heating? Lower temperatures? Oslo is currently freezing (below 0C), neither London nor Berlin are.

Perhaps. Both Norway and Finland have a population of a little more than 5 million, but Finland is at about 10GW, so a difference of double. Sweden at around 20MW net which is consistent with Finland pro-rata. Did Norway just decide to do all-electric heating as vastly all electric power, as displayed here, comes from hydro? Just idle curiosity.

Yes. Gas heating is for the most part just not a thing in Norway. The cities don't have gas infrastructure (with some minor exceptions), so if you want to have gas heating you need to store it on your property. In addition, the government discourages it. The vast majority of home heating in Norway is electric.
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