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Re: 33rd Chaos Communication Congress Livestreams

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Post by lawl »

Mithaldu wrote: post #17

Are they doing quality control on submitted talks this year, or are they still fine with talks that spread outright and clear lies to people who come there to learn and don't know any better? Edit: They still let Rubin talk, so probably no quality control.

The exploits he presented in high profile perl software are very real, irregardless of if you agree with his reasoning on what is broken or not.

So he gave a talk on exploits he found but you call the talk "outright and clear lies", because you disagree with his conclusion that perl is broken?

Re: 33rd Chaos Communication Congress Livestreams

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Post by Mithaldu »

lawl wrote: post #21
Mithaldu wrote: post #17

Are they doing quality control on submitted talks this year, or are they still fine with talks that spread outright and clear lies to people who come there to learn and don't know any better? Edit: They still let Rubin talk, so probably no quality control.

The exploits he presented in high profile perl software are very real, irregardless of if you agree with his reasoning on what is broken or not. So he gave a talk on exploits he found but you call the talk "outright and clear lies", because you disagree with his conclusion that perl is broken?

He found vulnerabilities in (very old) third-party software written in Perl (that's the 1%) then did nothing but lie and attribute them to the language while demonstrating his (accidental or willful) lack of understanding of the language. His code slides often aren't even valid Perl, which is an achievement in itself.

Re: 33rd Chaos Communication Congress Livestreams

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Post by Klasiaster »

shawn-butler wrote: post #9
myrion wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that's to avoid the whole Jakob Appelbaum kerfuffle. Both he and the rest of the TOR leadership were banned from giving talks this year.

That seems anathema to the stated aims of ccc. Do you have a reference for this or personal knowledge?

It's stated here: http://www.taz.de/Der-Fall-Jacob-Appelbaum/!5361578/

No party should get the chance to defend their position.

Re: 33rd Chaos Communication Congress Livestreams

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Post by thewavelength »

Mithaldu wrote: post #19
k__ wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care to elaborate?

For two years in a row Rubin has given talks about Perl, "exposing issues", in talks that are 99% straight lies or at the very least gross misrepresentations. They cannot in any good conscience be characterized as anything other than intentional trolling and spreading of FUD. He has been thanked by CCC orga directly for his contributions as well, thus making it clear that they support such shenanigans. As far as i am…

Or you just simply have to accept the fact that congress is more than 100%-always-correct-scientific-talks but rather is about entertainment too. And that is a thing Rubin can bring to congress.

Re: 33rd Chaos Communication Congress Livestreams

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Post by Mithaldu »

thewavelength wrote: post #24
Mithaldu wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For two years in a row Rubin has given talks about Perl, "exposing issues", in talks that are 99% straight lies or at the very least gross misrepresentations. They cannot in any good conscience be characterized as anything other than intentional trolling and spreading of FUD. He has been thanked by CCC orga directly for his contributions as well, thus making it clear that they support such shenanigans. As far as i am…

Or you just simply have to accept the fact that congress is more than 100%-always-correct-scientific-talks but rather is about entertainment too. And that is a thing Rubin can bring to congress.

His talks were in the Security track, not the entertainment track. At no point in the talks did he acknowledge that it wasn't meant to be factual either. Additionally, there's a wide gulf between 1% correct and 100% correct he could've aimed for.

I would be understanding if the CCC orga put him in the entertainment track, but they did not do that for two years in a row despite having received feedback.

He was intentionally spreading misinformation and the CCC orga supported him in that. These are simple facts.

Re: 33rd Chaos Communication Congress Livestreams

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Post by dijit »

yati wrote: post #16
r3bl wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is cool! Looks like something like Zabbix. Any idea what it is actually?

That's Grafana[1]. You can build such dashboards from data in Graphite, Elasticsearch or other sources. IIRC, they now also have support for alerting based on these metrics (something for which we are using Bosun currently). [1]: http://grafana.org/

They also support pulling data from zabbix, which can be super handy. :D

Re: 33rd Chaos Communication Congress Livestreams

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Post by digi_owl »

iamtew wrote: post #3

Some additional links: * Schedule: https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2016/Fahrplan/ * Media archive: https://media.ccc.de/ Edit: formatting

Those security entries for security and ethics makes me want to shut down my computer and disintegrate it to individual atoms. Its like the technologist handed STASI their wet dream while trying to improve the world...

Re: 33rd Chaos Communication Congress Livestreams

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Post by dividuum »

mnutt wrote: post #20

I recently came across the software they use for mixing their livestreams, and it looks really useful for anyone trying to build out a system to stream or record talks: https://github.com/voc/voctomix

And if you have seen the intermission screens and wondered how these work: They run my software info-beamer (https://info-beamer.com/hosted) on a Pi3 in each Hall. Basically those intermission information screens are written in Lua. My info-beamer software uses both hardware accelerated video decoding as well as OpenGL(ES) to make things run smoothly. I'll release the complete Lua source code early next year. If you want to see how these worked last year, take a look at https://github.com/info-beamer/package-32c3-screens

Re: 33rd Chaos Communication Congress Livestreams

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Post by happynewyear »

digi_owl wrote: post #27
iamtew wrote: post #3

Some additional links: * Schedule: https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2016/Fahrplan/ * Media archive: https://media.ccc.de/ Edit: formatting

Those security entries for security and ethics makes me want to shut down my computer and disintegrate it to individual atoms. Its like the technologist handed STASI their wet dream while trying to improve the world...

> Its like the technologist handed STASI their wet dream while trying to improve the world...

The error here is assuming that for all technologists "[handing] STASI their wet dream" and "trying to improve the world" are mutually exclusive. I am beginning to think they knew[/know] exactly what they were[/are] doing.

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