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Darktable 2.2.0 released

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Re: Darktable 2.2.0 released

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Post by geppetto »

pvdebbe wrote: post #6
LinuxFreedom wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RT has no real workflow, more a set of tools that you might apply somehow, GUI reflects that, seems unorganized. DT seems to have more advanced algorithms and tools. Both are excellent. Does not hurt to have both in your toolbelt.

RT has more controls for finetuning (some of which is very necessary for Fujifilm RAF files still) while DT has never crashed on me. CLUT support is nice, I play with it when I happen to develop from raw data. I should probably participate in DT's tracker and try to get the few shortcomings fixed... that should do for a new year's resolution: more participation in OS communities. :)

Can you expand on that? I'm a Fuji and Darktable user. What am I missing?

Re: Darktable 2.2.0 released

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Post by geppetto »

vr46 wrote: post #8

I am going to tentatively give this a go after ten years or so of Lightroom. The major problem apart from learning a new application is of course dealing with ten years of Lightroom catalogues and the metadata they contain. Further updates as events unfold ;)

Maybe that could work:

"Allow to import/export tags from Lightroom keyword files"

(Release notes)

Re: Darktable 2.2.0 released

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Post by pvdebbe »

geppetto wrote: post #11
pvdebbe wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RT has more controls for finetuning (some of which is very necessary for Fujifilm RAF files still) while DT has never crashed on me. CLUT support is nice, I play with it when I happen to develop from raw data. I should probably participate in DT's tracker and try to get the few shortcomings fixed... that should do for a new year's resolution: more participation in OS communities. :)

Can you expand on that? I'm a Fuji and Darktable user. What am I missing?

The pixel readout is frankly poor on both apps: false color here and there. Probably both apps use the same library behind the scenes. On RT I can crank up the demosaic algorithms to reduce the effect. DT has no similar filter available.

DT also used to not do a good job on lens corrections (I have an X100T). Perhaps this new version does better since there was a mention in the changelog about lens data.

The best pictures are still the SOOC JPEGs -- too bad if I want to adjust the shadows or highlights.

Re: Darktable 2.2.0 released

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Post by kqr »

polskibus wrote: post #3

Can anyone compare DarkTable to RawTherapee ? http://rawtherapee.com/

When I used RawTherapee I liked it, but I found the interface a bit opaque. The exported jpegs were not what I saw in the application, which in turn was not what I expected to see given the source and the modifications I had performed. I am absolutely sure there were good reasons for this, but I never took the time to figure out what they were.

In contrast, with Darktable, only once have the final output not matched my expectations, and then it was immediately obvious that I had accidentally changed the colour space of the output and my image viewer assumed sRGB – this was a two-click fix in the export tab.

Re: Darktable 2.2.0 released

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Post by wtallis »

JorgeGT wrote: post #5
geppetto wrote: post #2

IMHO it's the best FOSS photo application out there. It's cross platform, fast, stable and manages the whole photo workflow (RAW developing, photo management, non destructive editing). Thanks darktable folks!

> It's cross platform Are there Windows builds? There was a guy that did but he stopped at 2.0.

There's been renewed work on a clean Windows port in recent months: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/1327

Re: Darktable 2.2.0 released

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Post by alfanick »

Can someone compare it to Adobe Lightroom? Is it truly usable, is it quick enough?

I am stuck on classic dilemma "apple fucked up, what should I do", so I am planning moving back to Linux, but Lightroom is the only application keeping me back (however, I thought of OSX in VM on Linux for running just LR).

Re: Darktable 2.2.0 released

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Post by pvdebbe »

alfanick wrote: post #16

Can someone compare it to Adobe Lightroom? Is it truly usable, is it quick enough? I am stuck on classic dilemma "apple fucked up, what should I do", so I am planning moving back to Linux, but Lightroom is the only application keeping me back (however, I thought of OSX in VM on Linux for running just LR).

I agree with you - Lightroom is the sizzle. But if you happen to convert Fujifilm RAF files on a regular basis, then there are image quality issues with ACP that might make the switchover decision easier for you.

Re: Darktable 2.2.0 released

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Post by NovaS1X »

pvdebbe wrote: post #17
alfanick wrote: post #16

Can someone compare it to Adobe Lightroom? Is it truly usable, is it quick enough? I am stuck on classic dilemma "apple fucked up, what should I do", so I am planning moving back to Linux, but Lightroom is the only application keeping me back (however, I thought of OSX in VM on Linux for running just LR).

I agree with you - Lightroom is the sizzle. But if you happen to convert Fujifilm RAF files on a regular basis, then there are image quality issues with ACP that might make the switchover decision easier for you.

The Fuji issue has mostly been solved. I used to use Irident Developer for my RAFs but since switching to the X-T2 and the latest LR updates the old issues are gone. I've compared IR to LR a few times and there's no real difference if you know how to use the sharpening tool in LR properly. The older sensors still exhibit the issue a bit though.

Re: Darktable 2.2.0 released

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Post by StavrosK »

alfanick wrote: post #16

Can someone compare it to Adobe Lightroom? Is it truly usable, is it quick enough? I am stuck on classic dilemma "apple fucked up, what should I do", so I am planning moving back to Linux, but Lightroom is the only application keeping me back (however, I thought of OSX in VM on Linux for running just LR).

It is very usable for editing photos. When I used to use it (a few versions ago), there were a few issues with library management, so I switched to Lightroom. Lightroom's workflow seems more "integrated", but I think Darktable has more photo-editing features. I would definitely recommend taking it for a spin.

Re: Darktable 2.2.0 released

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Post by StavrosK »

vr46 wrote: post #8

I am going to tentatively give this a go after ten years or so of Lightroom. The major problem apart from learning a new application is of course dealing with ten years of Lightroom catalogues and the metadata they contain. Further updates as events unfold ;)

It's really not that bad, you open your photo and it has a list of plugins you can use. Lightroom isn't the most complicated in the world either, I guess, so it's not going to be a very steep learning curve.
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