Which programming language...?

#1

Post by iamgabeaudick » Thu, May 06, 2010, 9:19 PM UTC

Which programming language...?
iamgabeaudick.tumblr.com

Re: Which programming language...?

#2

Post by d0m » Thu, May 06, 2010, 9:53 PM UTC

He is totally wrong, but I still get the point and found the post funny.

Re: Which programming language...?

#3

Post by donw » Thu, May 06, 2010, 10:10 PM UTC

d0m wrote: post #2

He is totally wrong, but I still get the point and found the post funny.

I don't; it's obviously written by Yet Another Bitter Python Hacker, and isn't even really that funny.

I think that the best First Programming Language to learn would still be C, followed by some flavor of Lisp. C, because it's both practical and teaches you how your computer works at a low level, and Lisp, because it shows you how powerful computers can be when you strip them down to the mathematical bone.

Everything else is just some balance between the two.

Re: Which programming language...?

#4

Post by frou_dh » Thu, May 06, 2010, 10:13 PM UTC

Some languages get evaluated on their inherent qualities and some by the places you might encounter them. Not very insightful even for a flippant answer :-)

Re: Which programming language...?

#5

Post by cscotta » Thu, May 06, 2010, 10:17 PM UTC

These posts make me sad. If you are in a position to choose the language you're working in, choose the one that makes you and your team happy (in a gestalt sense, of course).

I don't mean to be overly reductionist. But the languages that I'm currently happiest with are statically-typed, compiled, and run on the JVM.

When I'm in a position to choose, I opt for the one in which myself and my coworkers are most productive that meets project requirements. There's not much to say beyond that.

Re: Which programming language...?

#6

Post by fierarul » Thu, May 06, 2010, 10:18 PM UTC

> To achieve a magical sense of childlike wonder that you have a hard time differentiating from megalomania: Objective C

I felt no childlike wonder while doing Objective C and this compared to Java. It's less verbose, but it's nothing that good about it. It did remind me of lisp but just barely([]).

Oh, an memory management wasn't something I was looking forward to...

Re: Which programming language...?

#7

Post by jacoblyles » Thu, May 06, 2010, 10:27 PM UTC

donw wrote: post #3

d0m wrote: post #2

He is totally wrong, but I still get the point and found the post funny.

I don't; it's obviously written by Yet Another Bitter Python Hacker, and isn't even really that funny. I think that the best First Programming Language to learn would still be C, followed by some flavor of Lisp. C, because it's both practical and teaches you how your computer works at a low level, and Lisp, because it shows you how powerful computers can be when you strip them down to the mathematical bone. Everythin…

It is interesting that you don't recommend any languages with a proper type system. Do you believe types are not important?

Re: Which programming language...?

#8

Post by psyklic » Thu, May 06, 2010, 10:30 PM UTC

cscotta wrote: post #5

These posts make me sad. If you are in a position to choose the language you're working in, choose the one that makes you and your team happy (in a gestalt sense, of course). I don't mean to be overly reductionist. But the languages that I'm currently happiest with are statically-typed, compiled, and run on the JVM. When I'm in a position to choose, I opt for the one in which myself and my coworkers are most producti…

The article is about which language you should learn first.

And it's not a very serious article to begin with.

Re: Which programming language...?

#9

Post by rimantas » Thu, May 06, 2010, 10:50 PM UTC

donw wrote: post #3

d0m wrote: post #2

He is totally wrong, but I still get the point and found the post funny.

I don't; it's obviously written by Yet Another Bitter Python Hacker, and isn't even really that funny. I think that the best First Programming Language to learn would still be C, followed by some flavor of Lisp. C, because it's both practical and teaches you how your computer works at a low level, and Lisp, because it shows you how powerful computers can be when you strip them down to the mathematical bone. Everythin…

  isn't even really that funny.

Yep, this one was better: http://james-iry.blogspot.com/2009/05/brief-incomplete-and-m...

Re: Which programming language...?

#10

Post by angrycoder » Thu, May 06, 2010, 10:50 PM UTC

jacoblyles wrote: post #7

donw wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't; it's obviously written by Yet Another Bitter Python Hacker, and isn't even really that funny. I think that the best First Programming Language to learn would still be C, followed by some flavor of Lisp. C, because it's both practical and teaches you how your computer works at a low level, and Lisp, because it shows you how powerful computers can be when you strip them down to the mathematical bone. Everythin…

It is interesting that you don't recommend any languages with a proper type system. Do you believe types are not important?

I'm gonna take a guess and say he has been programming for more than 2 years and realizes that types really don't matter.