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Opera joins in Jobs v Flash argument

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Re: Opera joins in Jobs v Flash argument

#11

"Opera's growing influence in browsers has been illustrated by the huge take-up of the Opera browser for iPhone" Really? I don't know a single person who has switched to Opera on iPhone.

I tried Opera on the iPhone last night...seriously disappointing. I used to love Opera on my little Blackberry Pearl, but it's soooo slow on the iPhone. Interface is odd also.

Re: Opera joins in Jobs v Flash argument

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post #11

"Opera's growing influence in browsers has been illustrated by the huge take-up of the Opera browser for iPhone" Really? I don't know a single person who has switched to Opera on iPhone.

I tried Opera on the iPhone last night...seriously disappointing. I used to love Opera on my little Blackberry Pearl, but it's soooo slow on the iPhone. Interface is odd also.

I had the same experience with their Android version. Tried it, but I don't see a reason to use it over the default browser (and yeah, the interface is a little odd).

Re: Opera joins in Jobs v Flash argument

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I tried Opera on the iPhone last night...seriously disappointing. I used to love Opera on my little Blackberry Pearl, but it's soooo slow on the iPhone. Interface is odd also.

I had the same experience with their Android version. Tried it, but I don't see a reason to use it over the default browser (and yeah, the interface is a little odd).

It's perfect if you find yourself having to access an heavy site on a low bandwidth (or just spotty) connection. Using it on WiFi is pretty pointless.

Re: Opera joins in Jobs v Flash argument

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post #5

Seems like a sane sentiment, although I personally think flash still has a place. I don't imagine that five years from now we'll be looking at flash as a relic.

People seem so focused on Flash in relation to games and video online, but they all fail to take into account the ability of Flash to access things like your webcam and microphone. So far as I know, these are not capabilities that are going to be part of HTML5.

? I think we won't see this tag soon.

Re: Opera joins in Jobs v Flash argument

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I have more trust allowing Skype access my webcam and mic. How often are these capabilities of Flash used (besides chatroulette)?

Yes, how often are these capabilities used (besides one of the most phenomenal web applications in recent years, but these parentheses let me pretend that nobody cares about something like that)?

Gosh, who would've thought that I could install plugins when web applications needed access to bits I don't normally want them to have access to?

http://cyri.systemrequirementslab.com/CYRI/

Re: Opera joins in Jobs v Flash argument

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post #5

Seems like a sane sentiment, although I personally think flash still has a place. I don't imagine that five years from now we'll be looking at flash as a relic.

People seem so focused on Flash in relation to games and video online, but they all fail to take into account the ability of Flash to access things like your webcam and microphone. So far as I know, these are not capabilities that are going to be part of HTML5.

Not even that. Consider apps that are used for screen or desktop sharing, e.g. LogMeIn Express and such. It is basically a Flash version of VNC viewer. I don't think these can be done in HTML5.

Re: Opera joins in Jobs v Flash argument

#17

"Opera's growing influence in browsers has been illustrated by the huge take-up of the Opera browser for iPhone" Really? I don't know a single person who has switched to Opera on iPhone.

It was the #1 iPhone app in numerous catgories shortly after it was released, probably where that statement is coming from.

Re: Opera joins in Jobs v Flash argument

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"Today's internet content is dependant on Flash," said Grønvold. "If you remove Flash you do not have today's internet."

That may be for some folks I guess. I run Safari with all plugins disabled and I'm able to do anything I want to do on the internet. To me, Flash is irrelevant.

Re: Opera joins in Jobs v Flash argument

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People seem so focused on Flash in relation to games and video online, but they all fail to take into account the ability of Flash to access things like your webcam and microphone. So far as I know, these are not capabilities that are going to be part of HTML5.

Not even that. Consider apps that are used for screen or desktop sharing, e.g. LogMeIn Express and such. It is basically a Flash version of VNC viewer. I don't think these can be done in HTML5.

Just yesterday there was a story on ./ about a HTML5 coded VNC client.
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