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Newest MacBook Pro is the first MacBook not recommended by Consumer Reports

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Re: Newest MacBook Pro is the first MacBook not recommended by Consumer Reports

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I've had mine for a week now, and have been able to use it alongside my late-2014 rMBP, which has been a solid workhorse. I'm starting to notice very subtle preferences for the 2017 model creeping in - after an hour of typing, for example, going back to the old keyboard feels really, really inefficient and antiquated, and my typing rate is lower than on the new rMBP. I also really enjoy the Touchbar - it hasn't been…

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Re: Newest MacBook Pro is the first MacBook not recommended by Consumer Reports

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I've had mine for a week now, and have been able to use it alongside my late-2014 rMBP, which has been a solid workhorse. I'm starting to notice very subtle preferences for the 2017 model creeping in - after an hour of typing, for example, going back to the old keyboard feels really, really inefficient and antiquated, and my typing rate is lower than on the new rMBP. I also really enjoy the Touchbar - it hasn't been…

Why would you create a new HN account just to post this?

Re: Newest MacBook Pro is the first MacBook not recommended by Consumer Reports

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It sounds like a bug in Safari causing the cpu to kill the battery. Possibly a race condition since it's random. Guessing this will be fixed in an OS X update shortly.

If that were the case it would affect all Macs - it must be some combination of Safari and the new hardware, which I wouldn't be at all happy with if I'd just spent a ton of money on a new Macbook.

>it must be some combination of Safari and the new hardware

Which still doesn't mean it has anything to do with being a hardware bug.

E.g. could just be related to the Safari+Touch Bar combination.

Re: Newest MacBook Pro is the first MacBook not recommended by Consumer Reports

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In macOS 10.12 sierra you can option-click on the battery indicator and click on "show percentage". Now the fact that they are trying to obfuscate how low you are on juice is really damning

It's not the percentage they removed but the 'time remaining' indicator.

thanks for clearing that up

Re: Newest MacBook Pro is the first MacBook not recommended by Consumer Reports

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This is an article that (incompletely) summarizes the Consumer Reports article[1]. The reason for the wildly varying performance appears to be due to a bug (presumably) in Safari. They had consistent results with Chrome: > Once our official testing was done, we experimented by conducting the same battery tests using a Chrome browser, rather than Safari. For this exercise, we ran two trials on each of the laptops, and…

The fact that Apple would ship a version of Safari that so deeply affected the battery of their newest MBP is concerning, and perhaps illustrative of why many MBP afficionados are so upset about the situation.

Re: Newest MacBook Pro is the first MacBook not recommended by Consumer Reports

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I've had mine for a week now, and have been able to use it alongside my late-2014 rMBP, which has been a solid workhorse. I'm starting to notice very subtle preferences for the 2017 model creeping in - after an hour of typing, for example, going back to the old keyboard feels really, really inefficient and antiquated, and my typing rate is lower than on the new rMBP. I also really enjoy the Touchbar - it hasn't been…

> after an hour of typing, for example, going back to the old keyboard feels really, really inefficient and antiquated

Isn't that just because you are used to a different keyboard now?

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32g next year? This is the first I've heard of that. Do you have any references?

http://mashable.com/2016/11/01/macbook-pro-2017-32-gb/ https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/31/2017-macbook-pro-rumors/ http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/31/macbooks-2017-price-cuts... "updates" say that "cannonlake" just won't be out, and there's no plans from apple on this, but this was the rumor mill a month ago. I not necessarily ruling any of this out, and we'll see in 6 months.

They can make 32GB with current chipsets but chose not to for battery life.

Given the outcry, they can put less efficient RAM in a newer model. The people asking for 32GB aren't newbies and presumably are willing to pay the price in battery life in exchange for the extra RAM.

If I were in the market for a new Macbook Pro (I'm not), I'd be willing to make the sacrifice in battery life for the extra RAM, because I would try to make the MBP last for at least 5 years. For all the talk about USB-C only being a future-proof choice, limiting RAM to 16GB is not future-proofing.

Re: Newest MacBook Pro is the first MacBook not recommended by Consumer Reports

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I've had mine for a week now, and have been able to use it alongside my late-2014 rMBP, which has been a solid workhorse. I'm starting to notice very subtle preferences for the 2017 model creeping in - after an hour of typing, for example, going back to the old keyboard feels really, really inefficient and antiquated, and my typing rate is lower than on the new rMBP. I also really enjoy the Touchbar - it hasn't been…

> after an hour of typing, for example, going back to the old keyboard feels really, really inefficient and antiquated Isn't that just because you are used to a different keyboard now?

I've had a similar experience. the new keyboard is much better. Except I keep palming the new huge trackpad.
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