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Re: ClusterHQ is shutting down

#91

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We don't use public cloud. We're hosted on dedicated hardware for a number of reasons. While we're not opposed to commercial solutions, we strongly prefer open source solutions for obvious reasons (like, this ClusterHQ situation).

You don't have to. We provide iSCSI or FC access points in your private datacenter.

Is the hardware storing the data in-datacentre too? I think that was the key thing.

Re: ClusterHQ is shutting down

#92

We've been running Kubernetes (500+ containers) in production for over a year now. I believe (and hope) that 2017 will be the year that persistent data storage will be solved. We are ready to move our data out of OpenStack and have our data services (Elasticsearch, Cassandra, MySQL, MongoDB) join the rest of our apps on Kube-orchestrated infrastructure. But, we're not there yet. The options just aren't good enough. L…

Same here. Running ~100 app servers in K8S and the rest (databases & legacy apps) as regular GCE instances with PD drives. But long term going K8S-only is instrumental for us to prevent vendor lock-in.

I really hope that storage for K8S happens this year in a form that is simpler than Gluster/Ceph/etc and preferably integrated. Right now we're using NFS and it's ok for the simple applications but I right now I wouldn't dare deploy my databases in K8S and feel good about it.

What gives me hope is the speed the K8S is moving forward and the superb experience we had thus far.

Re: ClusterHQ is shutting down

#93

If we're going to celebrate failure can we at least fail with respect, humility, and maybe even a tiny bit of class? The word "sorry" does not appear in this post. Instead of apologizing to investors, users, and employees for letting all of them down the CEO writes a contentless self-aggrandizing post. The CEO also doesn't bother to thank anyone despite being literally and metaphorically indebted to investors, users,…

> The CEO also doesn't bother to thank anyone despite being literally and metaphorically indebted to investors, users, and employees for getting as far as they did.

"To all the employees, customers, users, investors, advisors, partners, competitors, consultants, analysts, and vendors who helped us – there are thousands of you, and you know who you are – please accept our enduring, deeply felt gratitude."

Re: ClusterHQ is shutting down

#94
post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to. We provide iSCSI or FC access points in your private datacenter.

Is the hardware storing the data in-datacentre too? I think that was the key thing.

We (ClearSky) store your data off-site (except a small cache), but provide performance as if the data were on-site.

Re: ClusterHQ is shutting down

#95

If we're going to celebrate failure can we at least fail with respect, humility, and maybe even a tiny bit of class? The word "sorry" does not appear in this post. Instead of apologizing to investors, users, and employees for letting all of them down the CEO writes a contentless self-aggrandizing post. The CEO also doesn't bother to thank anyone despite being literally and metaphorically indebted to investors, users,…

Unless an investor additionally gave a loan, there is no debt owed in any way to investors - that's the point, they made a decision to invest at risk and presumably did due diligence based on accurate information.

Re: ClusterHQ is shutting down

#96

If we're going to celebrate failure can we at least fail with respect, humility, and maybe even a tiny bit of class? The word "sorry" does not appear in this post. Instead of apologizing to investors, users, and employees for letting all of them down the CEO writes a contentless self-aggrandizing post. The CEO also doesn't bother to thank anyone despite being literally and metaphorically indebted to investors, users,…

> The CEO also doesn't bother to thank anyone despite being literally and metaphorically indebted to investors, users, and employees for getting as far as they did. "To all the employees, customers, users, investors, advisors, partners, competitors, consultants, analysts, and vendors who helped us – there are thousands of you, and you know who you are – please accept our enduring, deeply felt gratitude."

Missed that; thanks for correcting me.

So at least there's one line of "thanks"

Re: ClusterHQ is shutting down

#97
post #84

Oh the immediate shutdowns! After going through the immediate Nebula shutdown, I'm glad we weren't depending on ClusterHQ. Same question I had for Nebula: you had no idea that a month ago you'd have to shutdown, right? I've started to follow these ex-CEOs so we avoid their next companies. This kind of shutdown is just terrible.

CEOs are trying to keep the company going. It would make no sense for every CEO whopse company is a month away from shutdown to be announcing "listen just to let you know, we are a month away from shutdown, but we are trying to find the money to keep going". For many companies this is the default state of operation and undoubtedly many companies have gone from that state to great success. What would employees and cus…

Indeed. There is also the fact that internal and external messaging is likely much different. I'd not be too surprised if there hadn't been some attrition within their ranks (especially devs) leading up to this point.

Re: ClusterHQ is shutting down

#98

How many people were employed at ClusterHQ? Honestly I never even heard of the company but I had heard of some of the open source projects. Maybe I'm just out of the loop. Also any information as to lessons learned, etc? Basically why it failed? Looking at the marketing material I didn't see anything really remarkable about it (nothing that stood out as a "oh this is why I would give them money") so I'm curious. > I’…

Full-fledged failure is genuinely unpleasant, and Silicon Valley plays deceptive word games to hide this. Most of what's cheerfully dubbed "failure" should be called "short-lived experiments that didn't work out."

Those doodles-gone-wrong can be shrugged off. We can count rapid-cycle launch goofs in that category, because there's an easy chance to come to market a couple months later with something better. We can even include small-scale corporate wipe-outs, too, as long as it's mostly VC money that got squandered and the investors expect some duds in their portfolio. ("Deal me another hand, mister!")

If it's five years of your life that collapses into dust, that's not fun at all. If it's a colossal product failure that damns your reputation (or your customers' lives) for keeps, that's pretty grim, too. I don't mean to get morose about it, but the key to longevity in any field involves making sure that your supposed failures actually are pretty transient and superficial.

That is not always possible.

Re: ClusterHQ is shutting down

#99
post #2

Wow this surprising. I wonder what the reason for shutdown is? Flocker looked like a really cool product but was pretty involved setup wise when I was evaluating it. What are best options now for bare-metal? Ceph? NFS?

Looks like those flagging a post are too young to understand nothing gets closer to bare metal than THE DIRECT BARE METAL LANGUAGE ITSELF, and are probably so enchanted with the idea of Open Source that they don't know from real experience that you can only rely upon yourself. The shutting down of this company only proves as much.

Re: ClusterHQ is shutting down

#100

Oh the immediate shutdowns! After going through the immediate Nebula shutdown, I'm glad we weren't depending on ClusterHQ. Same question I had for Nebula: you had no idea that a month ago you'd have to shutdown, right? I've started to follow these ex-CEOs so we avoid their next companies. This kind of shutdown is just terrible.

> Same question I had for Nebula: you had no idea that a month ago you'd have to shutdown, right?

Often they've got ideas that they might shut down because cash is running out but they generally have leads/prospects they're trying to pursue (or they fool themselves into thinking that anyway), until the cash actually runs out there's always a chance for a hail mary.

And revealing that the company is in pretty dire straight publicly would make any chance of breakthrough, investment or buyout nil, so why I dislike this kind of sudden shutdowns immensely the incentives really are against softly landing customers (and employees).

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