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How many people were employed at ClusterHQ? Honestly I never even heard of the company but I had heard of some of the open source projects. Maybe I'm just out of the loop. Also any information as to lessons learned, etc? Basically why it failed? Looking at the marketing material I didn't see anything really remarkable about it (nothing that stood out as a "oh this is why I would give them money") so I'm curious. > I’…

> Failure is failure. It's not awesome. Why would you relish it?

You're beating on a straw man. Nobody (very few people?) thinks the failure itself is good in and of itself. The mentality is to observe that even if a business endeavour ends in financial failure, that outcome is just one effect of a long process that had many effects, and that many of the other effects of the process were highly beneficial.

Sure, some people are out of a job, and some investment money has been lost - these are bad things, and nobody is claiming otherwise. On the other hand, many people have been gainfully employed for some time, and have gained a great deal of professional experience. That value has not been lost. Open source software has been created, and continues to be useful. That value has not been lost. Investors have lost money on this bet, but if they distributed their risk over many bets, they are probably going to come out ahead of where they would be if they made no bets whatsoever. Many people have learned some lessons about why a business may fail to be financially successful, and can use that knowledge to build financially successful businesses in the future. In sum: much value has been created which would not exist if this business had not been attempted, even if it ended in financial failure.

Re: ClusterHQ is shutting down

#32
It seems a little odd to do this 3 days before Christmas. Holiday depression is already a real problem, and making people unemployed a few days before the holiday sounds like a bad thing.

And it's a terrible time to be job hunting.

Why not hold on a few more weeks, let employees enjoy the holidays and announce in mid-January when employees can actually talk to hiring managers and get some good job prospects instead of being met with out of office messages?

Re: ClusterHQ is shutting down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

curious to know what you are doing right now ? I'm planning to deploy a redis cluster on a private cloud and am wondering what to use. do you use hostpath right now ?

We don't put any persistent data into Kube. Everything goes into OpenStack instances (Ubuntu), orchestrated by Chef. We hate it. OpenStack SDN has been flaky, Chef is a pain and doesn't support the latest Ubuntu releases well, none of the devs or technical ops engineers like it. It's my #1 goal for 2017: figure out persistent volumes for Kube.

Change Chef for Ansible and I have the same architecture. And you know what? I have decided to put on hold K8S until persistence is properly managed. Meanwhile, we have decided to give a chance to serverless architectures with AWS lambda.

Re: ClusterHQ is shutting down

#35

How many people were employed at ClusterHQ? Honestly I never even heard of the company but I had heard of some of the open source projects. Maybe I'm just out of the loop. Also any information as to lessons learned, etc? Basically why it failed? Looking at the marketing material I didn't see anything really remarkable about it (nothing that stood out as a "oh this is why I would give them money") so I'm curious. > I’…

> Failure is failure. It's not awesome. Why would you relish it? You're beating on a straw man. Nobody (very few people?) thinks the failure itself is good in and of itself. The mentality is to observe that even if a business endeavour ends in financial failure, that outcome is just one effect of a long process that had many effects, and that many of the other effects of the process were highly beneficial. Sure, some…

> beating on a straw man

The guy literally says he relishes failure...

Re: ClusterHQ is shutting down

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

curious to know what you are doing right now ? I'm planning to deploy a redis cluster on a private cloud and am wondering what to use. do you use hostpath right now ?

We don't put any persistent data into Kube. Everything goes into OpenStack instances (Ubuntu), orchestrated by Chef. We hate it. OpenStack SDN has been flaky, Chef is a pain and doesn't support the latest Ubuntu releases well, none of the devs or technical ops engineers like it. It's my #1 goal for 2017: figure out persistent volumes for Kube.

Are you running Openstack yourself or a vendor backed version ? My understanding is deploying OpenStack in production is a nightmare. Would you mind sharing your experience (cluster size, upgrade, support etc.) ?

Re: ClusterHQ is shutting down

#37

How many people were employed at ClusterHQ? Honestly I never even heard of the company but I had heard of some of the open source projects. Maybe I'm just out of the loop. Also any information as to lessons learned, etc? Basically why it failed? Looking at the marketing material I didn't see anything really remarkable about it (nothing that stood out as a "oh this is why I would give them money") so I'm curious. > I’…

11-50 employees according to https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/hybridcluster#/entit...

Re: ClusterHQ is shutting down

#38

How many people were employed at ClusterHQ? Honestly I never even heard of the company but I had heard of some of the open source projects. Maybe I'm just out of the loop. Also any information as to lessons learned, etc? Basically why it failed? Looking at the marketing material I didn't see anything really remarkable about it (nothing that stood out as a "oh this is why I would give them money") so I'm curious. > I’…

> Failure is failure. It's not awesome. Why would you relish it? You're beating on a straw man. Nobody (very few people?) thinks the failure itself is good in and of itself. The mentality is to observe that even if a business endeavour ends in financial failure, that outcome is just one effect of a long process that had many effects, and that many of the other effects of the process were highly beneficial. Sure, some…

I think the critical idea is separating out the idea of the business failure and a moral failure on the part of those involved.

Businesses fail, and that's often sad. They even fail when you do everything right. It's just not shameful to have your business fail, nor in itself a mark on the character of those involved.

Re: ClusterHQ is shutting down

#39

It seems a little odd to do this 3 days before Christmas. Holiday depression is already a real problem, and making people unemployed a few days before the holiday sounds like a bad thing. And it's a terrible time to be job hunting. Why not hold on a few more weeks, let employees enjoy the holidays and announce in mid-January when employees can actually talk to hiring managers and get some good job prospects instead o…

It's likely that people within the organization already knew things weren't going well.

So, the bright side of this is that:

A) employees can spend the entire holiday week or two with their families, and

B) employees can start out their new year unencumbered by the stress of working for a failing company

Personally, I'd rather have it this way than come back from whatever fun holiday adventure I'm on to find out a week later that I'm losing my job... that's a terrible way to start the year's momentum.

Re: ClusterHQ is shutting down

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It seems a little odd to do this 3 days before Christmas. Holiday depression is already a real problem, and making people unemployed a few days before the holiday sounds like a bad thing. And it's a terrible time to be job hunting. Why not hold on a few more weeks, let employees enjoy the holidays and announce in mid-January when employees can actually talk to hiring managers and get some good job prospects instead o…

Well, you don't know the exact circumstances. Maybe there's no money in the bank and they couldn't raise more investment and they did the best they could to stretch it out to the New Year?

Or maybe they're giving everyone 3 months severance in which case, it might not be so bad to get a Christmas gift of pay without work.

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