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Re: Tragedy Made Steve Kerr See the World Beyond the Court

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Post by aaron-lebo » Thu, Dec 22, 2016, 3:56 PM UTC

monkmartinez wrote: post #20

aaron-lebo wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We allow a lot of things that are bad for society and even impact larger groups of people just as negatively. Cigarettes? We let people work jobs that break their bodies over decades. Manual labor? It's how the world works. These guys are at least getting rewarded for doing it....

Cigarettes? We don't allow minors to legally have them, further they are taxed and regulated at great length. Also, there is a massive educational aspect warning everyone about the risks. Show me that with the American Football, please. Manual Labor? Ever heard of OSHA, MSHA, NIOSH, NIST? Just a few of the agencies looking after the well being of folks working manual labor. I work in a glorified blue collar job, we a…

Don't disagree with any of that (I said in the first post kids shouldn't play).

But adults? If we start making more rules about what adults can or cannot do with their bodies we're gonna have to start drawing very arbitrary lines.

Re: Tragedy Made Steve Kerr See the World Beyond the Court

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Post by zatkin » Thu, Dec 22, 2016, 3:57 PM UTC

I got redirected to the subscription page for NYT upon clicking this link.

Re: Tragedy Made Steve Kerr See the World Beyond the Court

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 22, 2016, 4:05 PM UTC

AznHisoka wrote: post #15

jmduke wrote: post #8

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I don't think I've ever met a sports fan who hasn't hated at least one team. Rivalries are fun; teams that you relish rooting against are fun. Emotional investment in the outcome is one of the biggest reasons folks watch sports; rooting for the underdog to win is rooting for the overdog to lose (and I can't remember a larger overdog in quite some time than the Warriors.) It's also eminently clear from my comment that…

It's weird in another sense because you're only hating the uniform, since players changed teams so often these days.

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Re: Tragedy Made Steve Kerr See the World Beyond the Court

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Post by lambdasquirrel » Thu, Dec 22, 2016, 4:05 PM UTC

AznHisoka wrote: post #15

jmduke wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think I've ever met a sports fan who hasn't hated at least one team. Rivalries are fun; teams that you relish rooting against are fun. Emotional investment in the outcome is one of the biggest reasons folks watch sports; rooting for the underdog to win is rooting for the overdog to lose (and I can't remember a larger overdog in quite some time than the Warriors.) It's also eminently clear from my comment that…

It's weird in another sense because you're only hating the uniform, since players changed teams so often these days.

Team culture can be a thing. Maybe there's something in the team's shadow that irks him, like Draymond's temper. I personally find it fascinating, all the emotions stirred up and that people aren't ashamed to talk about them.

Re: Tragedy Made Steve Kerr See the World Beyond the Court

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Post by dgelks » Thu, Dec 22, 2016, 4:11 PM UTC

zatkin wrote: post #22

I got redirected to the subscription page for NYT upon clicking this link.

Open the page in incognito to get around the paywall

Re: Tragedy Made Steve Kerr See the World Beyond the Court

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Post by monkmartinez » Thu, Dec 22, 2016, 4:11 PM UTC

aaron-lebo wrote: post #21

monkmartinez wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cigarettes? We don't allow minors to legally have them, further they are taxed and regulated at great length. Also, there is a massive educational aspect warning everyone about the risks. Show me that with the American Football, please. Manual Labor? Ever heard of OSHA, MSHA, NIOSH, NIST? Just a few of the agencies looking after the well being of folks working manual labor. I work in a glorified blue collar job, we a…

Don't disagree with any of that (I said in the first post kids shouldn't play). But adults? If we start making more rules about what adults can or cannot do with their bodies we're gonna have to start drawing very arbitrary lines.

I agree that the adult aspect is not binary... however, American Football would not exist without allowing children to play as it stands now. Furthermore, the "owner class" of the state sports associations, NCAA, and NFL would stand to lose a great deal of money if children were not allowed to play.

Let's see if we do the right thing.

Re: Tragedy Made Steve Kerr See the World Beyond the Court

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Post by grzm » Thu, Dec 22, 2016, 4:15 PM UTC

zatkin wrote: post #22

I got redirected to the subscription page for NYT upon clicking this link.

The "web" link beneath the submission title will bring you to a search page with a link to the actual article, which should get you around the paywall.

Re: Tragedy Made Steve Kerr See the World Beyond the Court

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Post by GFK_of_xmaspast » Thu, Dec 22, 2016, 4:22 PM UTC

jmduke wrote: post #3

I hate Golden State. They're an eminently villainous team: overconfident and insufferable. (This can also be said of many of their fans -- most of whom I suspect had not called themselves a Golden State fan until 2013 -- and their owner, who described their organization as 'light-years ahead' of the competition because they had the good fortune to sign Curry to the best contract in the NBA due to his reputation as in…

If it makes you feel any better, they did blow a 3-1 lead in the finals last season.

Re: Tragedy Made Steve Kerr See the World Beyond the Court

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 22, 2016, 4:31 PM UTC

e40 wrote: post #4

jmduke wrote: post #3

I hate Golden State. They're an eminently villainous team: overconfident and insufferable. (This can also be said of many of their fans -- most of whom I suspect had not called themselves a Golden State fan until 2013 -- and their owner, who described their organization as 'light-years ahead' of the competition because they had the good fortune to sign Curry to the best contract in the NBA due to his reputation as in…

When you say you "hate" a sports team, it's time to do some self-evaluation.

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Re: Tragedy Made Steve Kerr See the World Beyond the Court

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Post by CalChris » Thu, Dec 22, 2016, 4:42 PM UTC

jmduke wrote: post #3

I hate Golden State. They're an eminently villainous team: overconfident and insufferable. (This can also be said of many of their fans -- most of whom I suspect had not called themselves a Golden State fan until 2013 -- and their owner, who described their organization as 'light-years ahead' of the competition because they had the good fortune to sign Curry to the best contract in the NBA due to his reputation as in…

I've stopped hating basketball teams. There are only a few players I really don't like. Harden comes to mind. I'm a Warrior fan but I like LBJ and Kevin Love. (JR Reid not so much).

Kerr is a blessing to the Bay Area. I'm a long time Warriors fan. I've had my shot blocked by people who've had their shot blocked by Manute Bol. My bad was coined by Manute Bol! But I really wasn't watching the Warriors for awhile until I saw they'd 1) fired Mark Jackson 2) swooped in and got Steve Kerr. Jackson was a bad fit for the Bay Area and feuded with his players.

Kerr on the other hand had incredible pedigree. Lute Olson, Phil Jackson, Gregg Popovich, Mike D'Antoni. He played with Michael Jordan and Tim Duncan. He won five rings. Wow, the Warriors scored Steve Kerr! Bob Myers then won the NBA Executive of the Year deservedly.

Anyways, the Warriors are very popular in the Bay Area, yeah because they win but also because they're actually pretty nice people who are out in the community quite a bit. Bogut was kind've sour but extremely honest. A great interview. The only Warriors jersey I own is a Bogut jersey.

But I really think there's a lot for Silicon Valley to learn from the Warriors organization. Starting Iggy in the Finals (the Small Ball Death Lineup) was an idea that came from their video guy, was debated by the assistants and OK'd by Kerr.