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Percentage of Young Americans Living with Parents Rises to 75-Year High

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If you've been investing in index funds for the past 20 years, your 401k is certainly worth more than what you put in. Hell, even if you invested two lump sums right before the dot-com bust and the 07/08 recession, you're still net positive. The markets are currently at all-time highs.

Just in time for people's 401k/retirement contributions. Where to invest that cash when markets are frothy?

Same index funds as always. Don't try to time the market, especially a quarter century before you retire and start withdrawing.

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It's unreal how greatly the human experience can vary - I was born in the uk to itinerant parents (finance father), raised by a series of aupairs, and was sent to boarding school at six. Despite my parents being wealthy and having the space, I did not have a room at home from that point - when I went home for holidays, I would stay in the guest room, and when my brother was born, his room. When I "left home" at 16 up…

This comment makes me sad. Children should be loved and cherished, not abandoned.

You presume being loved and cherished involves having to live together.

I moved out quite early on myself, and my relationship with my parents is quite fine. (From the US for context)

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It's unreal how greatly the human experience can vary - I was born in the uk to itinerant parents (finance father), raised by a series of aupairs, and was sent to boarding school at six. Despite my parents being wealthy and having the space, I did not have a room at home from that point - when I went home for holidays, I would stay in the guest room, and when my brother was born, his room. When I "left home" at 16 up…

This comment makes me sad. Children should be loved and cherished, not abandoned.

I don't know, it seems to have worked for his family. Maybe his parents realized early on that they were too career focused to be good parents.

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What I would like to see happen is for young people to stay with their aging parents even after becoming financially settled and even after marriage. The whole concept of 'moving out' is barbaric to say the least. Old folks who can't fend for themselves in many situations and their old bodies fail them in most basic of tasks such as cleaning house and cooking are then simply shoved into 'old folks house' till they br…

I often see that point of view when I discuss with friends in Asia (where living with the parents is much more prevalent). Let me offer an anecdotical counter point. I have a grandmother, she's getting old (85 years old) and things are much harder than they used to be, she no longer can easily go shopping by herself or clean the house.

We've asked her multiple times if she wanted to live with us or our aunt, every time she's refused. She wants to stay independent and instead hired a helper who comes everyday for a few hours and helps her with the basic tasks.

We often come to visit her but she doesn't want us to stay too long or too often for the same reason. She values her independence. So, yes I see the point about living with aging parents but it's also good not to deny the independence of those same aging parents.

The Asian model of staying at home with the parents does have a lot of tradeoffs too. Usually the wife needs to move in with her husband's parents and this is not easy at all for the wife. I've seen a few divorces that were due to conflicts with the in laws (which are much worse when you actually have to live with them). I also have a friend whose parents had a big house and lived together with all their sons and the parents decided to sell that house, buy separate houses for each of their sons and live alone because it was just too much headache for them.

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Why do people even spend $200,000 on a degree if they're not rich? I went to community college for my associates degree in IT (about $5000 total), and then went to university for a bachelor's of science in IT (roughly $15,000 all in). Since you work at a university, what does that extra $180,000 buy? What's the sales pitch you'll give to students to get them to pay so much?

My Opinion Only: If you are going to an Ivy League school you are paying for the network / brand. If you are going to a lesser tier selective school you are paying for outcomes. But the outcomes, I believe, are starting to lag the price. At the school I work for about 65% of the students get some financial aid and we are need blind and meet 100% of demonstrated need. They meet need with grants (think scholarships) an…

What are the selling points on a societal level. Why is the government, and by extention you and me, supporting liberal arts degrees that will do little to support economic growth? I've never head an argument made against this question.

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And I wonder if they will be sold by banks or merely rented out and packaged as collateralized investments.

They will probably be sold to rental management companies (of which there will be a whole bunch) or like liquid-property-investment startups like https://bricklane.com/

This will be a bigger problem in the near future. I keep seeing advertisements for property investments along the lines of the company you linked. Everyone thinks that housing is an investment and a way to make money. This has and will continue to drive up prices.

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I'm in the minority here of my generation but I'm 19 and I really would like to get out of my house. Due to some complications with my family it's just my mom and I now and we'll be moving into an apartment soon. I'd like to get out so I can learn about machining and electronics without being told to "stop bringing garbage into my house".

Unfortuantly I 1) don't have enough time for a full time job since I'm wasting away my better years and credit in college, and 2) none of my friends want to move out or will be allowed to move out by their parents.

Finding a room mate will be tough. I'm going to try... but it'll still be tough. This is extra worse because of how high the rent is here in NJ (even in Paterson, Franklin Lakes, and Newerk where I go to school).

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My Opinion Only: If you are going to an Ivy League school you are paying for the network / brand. If you are going to a lesser tier selective school you are paying for outcomes. But the outcomes, I believe, are starting to lag the price. At the school I work for about 65% of the students get some financial aid and we are need blind and meet 100% of demonstrated need. They meet need with grants (think scholarships) an…

What are the selling points on a societal level. Why is the government, and by extention you and me, supporting liberal arts degrees that will do little to support economic growth? I've never head an argument made against this question.

> Why is the government, and by extention you and me, supporting liberal arts degrees that will do little to support economic growth?

As a taxpayer, I'm happy to support liberal arts even if it doesn't lead to economic growth. But you can't convince me that it should cost $200k to get a degree in it; that's just bananas. There's no way it costs that much to provide that service (even with a healthy profit margin on top). They must be subsidizing other costs with that money.

On a related note, I think the American model of charging per-credit-unit, regardless of what you study, is illogical (maybe it's not the same at all universities). It might make things easier for the bursar's office but it just doesn't compute that a credit hour of an aerospace engineering course (with all that expensive lab equipment) should cost the same as a credit hour of American poetry. Or that a 200-student introductory chemistry class costs the same as an advanced 20-student organic chemistry class.

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23 year old Indian developer here. The concept of 'moving out' of your parents home is baffling for most of us. I now live in a different city and I share a decent apartment with friends. I can afford to live alone in the apartment I now live in - the rent is 30% of my monthly income and the apartment is 15 minutes away from where I work - but living alone would be just awful. So I'm now paying 11% of my income for r…

Indian here, I have experienced life in India and a Western country. I have noticed Western young adults are more confident and assertive compared to Indian young adults and I think the reason is because Western kids have to be independent after 18 while Indian parents still play a significant role even after their kids have become adults. I feel the Western model is better.

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Re: Percentage of Young Americans Living with Parents Rises to 75-Year High

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23 year old Indian developer here. The concept of 'moving out' of your parents home is baffling for most of us. I now live in a different city and I share a decent apartment with friends. I can afford to live alone in the apartment I now live in - the rent is 30% of my monthly income and the apartment is 15 minutes away from where I work - but living alone would be just awful. So I'm now paying 11% of my income for r…

It's unreal how greatly the human experience can vary - I was born in the uk to itinerant parents (finance father), raised by a series of aupairs, and was sent to boarding school at six. Despite my parents being wealthy and having the space, I did not have a room at home from that point - when I went home for holidays, I would stay in the guest room, and when my brother was born, his room. When I "left home" at 16 up…

We have boarding schools in the US, too, but the concept is so completely foreign to me, regardless. I've never met someone who went to one.
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