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Percentage of Young Americans Living with Parents Rises to 75-Year High

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Re: Percentage of Young Americans Living with Parents Rises to 75-Year High

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Gen X here, just turned 40. If you compare how I'm doing with how my parents (who were solidly middle class) were doing, it's not even close. At 40, they had multiple homes, were secure in their savings and retirement through generous pensions, and practically debt free. This was on school teachers' salaries! Me? Student loan debt set me back years, crippling housing costs, and a crappy 401(k) that is probably worth…

My father was an employee of a series of banks. Nothing hugely special - earning the equivalent of about £100k today at that point - but the lifestyle they had by my age is astounding. By 34 they owned a huge house in the country, several large holiday homes abroad, three cars, private education for the kids, first class flights (for them - I always flew alone to school, economy), motorbikes, you name it. At the same…

It is quite fair when you take into account the change in the wealth of people all around the world, not only first world countries.

That's the issue with this thread: it's only first world perspective, about the time when the difference in income between countries around the globe was completely radical. With globalisation, it jist evens out.

Re: Percentage of Young Americans Living with Parents Rises to 75-Year High

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Disclaimer: this is a somewhat personal-nuanced and anecdotal essay, so skip it if you prefer colder facts. You've been warned. ;) Eastern European (Bulgarian) 36-year old programmer here, still living in Sofia (the capital). We don't miss communism and socialism. At all . A good chunk of us around here are competitive and want to demonstrate skills for better money. There are frauds and freeloaders but hell, is ther…

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Re: Percentage of Young Americans Living with Parents Rises to 75-Year High

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> Italy's boot So are you referring to all of Italy or are you saying this doesn't apply to Sicily (or other islands)?

Socioeconomic analysis of Italy normally sees a distinction between the wealthier, more industrial Northern half (e.g. cities like Milan) and the poorer, more agricultural, mafia-troubled Southern half (e.g. Naples) normally including Sicily and Sardinia too. A rough line for the split could be about the latitude of Rome. "Italy's boot" here corresponds to this Southern Italy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_I…

Thanks, I wasn't familiar with the expression in that context

Re: Percentage of Young Americans Living with Parents Rises to 75-Year High

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I have two girls, 24 and 18 years old. Both live at home right now. The 24 year old graduated from a selective private liberal arts college in 2015 and is working part time in a library. She does not qualify for health insurance or many other benefits. She does not make enough to live on her own. She is also in graduate school online for a Master of Library Science (MLS). She wants to be a librarian and you pretty mu…

I don't understand this situation with your daughter:

- Wanted to be a librarian

- Studied to be a librarian

- Graduated school to be a librarian

- Got a job as a librarian

- Doesn't make enough to live on her own and pay the cost of her education to be a librarian

And this isn't isolated to librarians, it's just a very instructive example. How is it we now have entire classes of jobs where the education they require for that job now puts you in such a degree of debt that you have to live off of your parents? We need librarians, no? We want to make sure we still have those? We have to be willing to pay for them.

Re: Percentage of Young Americans Living with Parents Rises to 75-Year High

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Plus unlike most guys there is a backup life plan for her. You are lucky that it's not a librarian son!

What's the backup life plan that a librarian son would be ineligible for?

More unrealistic than ineligible: being a housewife.

Re: Percentage of Young Americans Living with Parents Rises to 75-Year High

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23 year old Indian developer here. The concept of 'moving out' of your parents home is baffling for most of us. I now live in a different city and I share a decent apartment with friends. I can afford to live alone in the apartment I now live in - the rent is 30% of my monthly income and the apartment is 15 minutes away from where I work - but living alone would be just awful. So I'm now paying 11% of my income for r…

> There's one big trade off with the whole set up though - no sex till you get married ;)

To a spouse chosen by your parents, correct?

Re: Percentage of Young Americans Living with Parents Rises to 75-Year High

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This seems like a huge cultural difference from the west. I personally can't imagine having lived with my parents into my 20s. The people I know who did are mostly far more dependent. I think this has a lot to do with our focus on individuality. I don't think I would have developed into the person I am today without having dealt with the hardships of making my own way in life as an independent person. I can absolutel…

Well not "the West" - Italians live at their parents home as long as they can too.

Well I'm not from Italy but from Croatia which IIRC has the highest percentage of at-home young people in the EU.

Here it's very much not cultural. Youth unemployment is 50% and people are dirt poor.

Re: Percentage of Young Americans Living with Parents Rises to 75-Year High

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23 year old Indian developer here. The concept of 'moving out' of your parents home is baffling for most of us. I now live in a different city and I share a decent apartment with friends. I can afford to live alone in the apartment I now live in - the rent is 30% of my monthly income and the apartment is 15 minutes away from where I work - but living alone would be just awful. So I'm now paying 11% of my income for r…

Wait, so when you get married, do you keep living at home with your parents?

Re: Percentage of Young Americans Living with Parents Rises to 75-Year High

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23 year old Indian developer here. The concept of 'moving out' of your parents home is baffling for most of us. I now live in a different city and I share a decent apartment with friends. I can afford to live alone in the apartment I now live in - the rent is 30% of my monthly income and the apartment is 15 minutes away from where I work - but living alone would be just awful. So I'm now paying 11% of my income for r…

This seems like a huge cultural difference from the west. I personally can't imagine having lived with my parents into my 20s. The people I know who did are mostly far more dependent. I think this has a lot to do with our focus on individuality. I don't think I would have developed into the person I am today without having dealt with the hardships of making my own way in life as an independent person. I can absolutel…

I don't think it is merely cultural. It has to be a genetic difference between people of particular areas.
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