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Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8

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Re: Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8

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I love vim, and I'm always happy to read interviews with the developers who make and manage the tools I use or like. However, I find this article to be somewhat of a mishmash with an uncertain audience. From the title, I had expected this to be a transcript of an interview. But it's not. Thank you for the link.

The article also heavily implies that Bram is the sole and only developer, and mentions that vim has had four updates since 2006. Both of these are true only up to extremely narrow interpretation, and not what I would expect from an article purporting to interview and describe a project maintainer and the project.

Re: Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8

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Has Bram Moolenaar ever publicly acknowledged the influence of Neovim on Vim 8? At the very least, Neovim provided the market research to show that async was worth doing.

I've not seen anything which is disappointing, the NeoVim team have done a fantastic job at modernising Vim. I've not followed Vim development very closely but the whole async thing did give me a chuckle when I read about it after years of not accepting async patches. A real shame he made it incompatible with the NeoVim async with no real reason.

Re: Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8

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Has Bram Moolenaar ever publicly acknowledged the influence of Neovim on Vim 8? At the very least, Neovim provided the market research to show that async was worth doing.

He mentions it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayc_qpB-93o

Re: Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8

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Has Bram Moolenaar ever publicly acknowledged the influence of Neovim on Vim 8? At the very least, Neovim provided the market research to show that async was worth doing.

Neovim is Vim for me and many other users. Vim is irrelevant to me now. The community is rallying behind Neovim and it shows great potential. It just needs to be bundled by major distros so it can be installed on servers with 1 command and that'll be the end of old Vim. Bram has done a tremendous job with Vim but it's time to move on to the Vim of the future.

Re: Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8

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Has Bram Moolenaar ever publicly acknowledged the influence of Neovim on Vim 8? At the very least, Neovim provided the market research to show that async was worth doing.

He mentions it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayc_qpB-93o

At 50:15, 54:00 and 59:10 [edit: also 1:05:15]. The last two are specif about the fork (all quite short).

Re: Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8

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I was surprised to learn that vim started out on the Amiga. Back in those days I was using DME, by a certain Matt Dillon (of Dragonfly BSD fame, not the actor ;-) ). At the time it was the only editor that could drag me away from Emacs. Ironic that Vim later seduced me away from Emacs again...

Re: Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8

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Has Bram Moolenaar ever publicly acknowledged the influence of Neovim on Vim 8? At the very least, Neovim provided the market research to show that async was worth doing.

Neovim is Vim for me and many other users. Vim is irrelevant to me now. The community is rallying behind Neovim and it shows great potential. It just needs to be bundled by major distros so it can be installed on servers with 1 command and that'll be the end of old Vim. Bram has done a tremendous job with Vim but it's time to move on to the Vim of the future.

Why would it be the end of old vim? I've never used neovim and I don't plan to use it, vim is perfectly fine for me, as it is. I guess, most of vim users don't even know of neovim. Sure, it's good to have a choice.
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