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Re: Google Cloud Platform Icon Library for Architecture Diagrams

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Post by nealmueller » Wed, Dec 21, 2016, 11:07 PM UTC

georgewfraser wrote: post #10

nealmueller wrote: post #2

This is one of my 20% projects at Google. AMA.

There's a trade-off between using Google Slides (familiarity, non-flowchart features) and LucidChart (more flowchart features). In your experience, when is it worth it to use LucidChart versus Google Slides?

I'm one of the GCP icon library people, but I'm not a collaboration tool expert. With that said, I have tons of tool opinions, as I'm sure many knowledge workers do. Here's my tips on when to use which tool.

#1 use a collaborative tool #2 use a collaborative tool that all your collaborators will use easily #3 use a collaborative tool that makes you very efficient

Lucidchart and other specialized tools will make you more efficient for diagramming because they have snap-to and other pro features, but they won't pass test #2 for some places. That's why we gave you both versions.

What version, templates and tools would you like us to add? Draw.io? Any others?

Re: Google Cloud Platform Icon Library for Architecture Diagrams

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Post by imafish » Wed, Dec 21, 2016, 11:12 PM UTC

nealmueller wrote: post #11

georgewfraser wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a trade-off between using Google Slides (familiarity, non-flowchart features) and LucidChart (more flowchart features). In your experience, when is it worth it to use LucidChart versus Google Slides?

I'm one of the GCP icon library people, but I'm not a collaboration tool expert. With that said, I have tons of tool opinions, as I'm sure many knowledge workers do. Here's my tips on when to use which tool. #1 use a collaborative tool #2 use a collaborative tool that all your collaborators will use easily #3 use a collaborative tool that makes you very efficient Lucidchart and other specialized tools will make you m…

Draw.io, thank you!

Re: Google Cloud Platform Icon Library for Architecture Diagrams

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Post by saycheese » Wed, Dec 21, 2016, 11:13 PM UTC

nealmueller wrote: post #2

This is one of my 20% projects at Google. AMA.

Does Google still do 20% projects? Thought that stopped years ago around the same time as Google X started up.

Re: Google Cloud Platform Icon Library for Architecture Diagrams

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Post by ucaetano » Wed, Dec 21, 2016, 11:14 PM UTC

alexgolive wrote: post #9

Are these icons public domain (or free to use in another way)?

From the presentation: "The Products and Services logos may be used to accurately reference Google's technology and tools."

Re: Google Cloud Platform Icon Library for Architecture Diagrams

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Post by nealmueller » Wed, Dec 21, 2016, 11:14 PM UTC

HansGruber wrote: post #5

Who created the diagram examples? Are these architecture suggestions?

These examples were created by GCP for the GCPNext 2016 event. There were used to start discussions for user needs. Experts in the specific verticals were consulted in developing the diagrams, but they are not recommended or validated designs--not detailed enough. The diagrams are intended to spark discussions, and so you don't have to start from scratch.

Re: Google Cloud Platform Icon Library for Architecture Diagrams

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Post by milesward » Wed, Dec 21, 2016, 11:17 PM UTC

nealmueller wrote: post #15

HansGruber wrote: post #5

Who created the diagram examples? Are these architecture suggestions?

These examples were created by GCP for the GCPNext 2016 event. There were used to start discussions for user needs. Experts in the specific verticals were consulted in developing the diagrams, but they are not recommended or validated designs--not detailed enough. The diagrams are intended to spark discussions, and so you don't have to start from scratch.

I did several of them, most come from the GCP Solutions Architecture team. AMA!

Re: Google Cloud Platform Icon Library for Architecture Diagrams

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Post by beisner » Wed, Dec 21, 2016, 11:24 PM UTC

saycheese wrote: post #13

nealmueller wrote: post #2

This is one of my 20% projects at Google. AMA.

Does Google still do 20% projects? Thought that stopped years ago around the same time as Google X started up.

They definitely still do. It's just not necessarily a formal system - there are a ton of projects out there that people work on while at work that aren't directly related to their main responsibilities, and managers generally are fine with employees taking on 20% projects.

Re: Google Cloud Platform Icon Library for Architecture Diagrams

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Post by atarian » Wed, Dec 21, 2016, 11:26 PM UTC

The icons look way too similar. In fact, the only way to distinguish one from another is by the glyphs. This begs the question: what purpose does the blue hexagon serve besides aesthetics?

As @bowmessage mentioned, couldn't you have a color for each family of service?

Re: Google Cloud Platform Icon Library for Architecture Diagrams

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Post by halflings » Wed, Dec 21, 2016, 11:53 PM UTC

saycheese wrote: post #13

nealmueller wrote: post #2

This is one of my 20% projects at Google. AMA.

Does Google still do 20% projects? Thought that stopped years ago around the same time as Google X started up.

It's still in place and 20% projects are still advertised internally. I think Google might have made it a bit more formal (requiring manager approval etc.), that's all.

Re: Google Cloud Platform Icon Library for Architecture Diagrams

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Post by davidjgraph » Wed, Dec 21, 2016, 11:55 PM UTC

nealmueller wrote: post #8

dukky wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if the 'diagram examples' at the bottom of the page is supposed to have links, but it doesn't.

Each of those diagrams are in the Slides and Powerpoint. There was no immediately clean way to link them (we staged it but ended up removing it). Good suggestion, I think we'll be adding links to Slide pages soon once we are certain we can do it in a clean way.

Can we put the icons and example diagrams into draw.io?