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Update on Multi-Process Firefox

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Re: Update on Multi-Process Firefox

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I force-enabled multi-process FF a while ago and haven't had any issues. In the 49.x series there were one or two tab crashes, but I can't think of any recently. All of my extensions have worked just fine too.

1Password unfortunately is still incompatible so force needs to be applied. But in general I share your observation - runs very smooth.

Why use 1Password, rather than Firefox Sync/Accounts?

Re: Update on Multi-Process Firefox

#22
Does anyone have insight on why we're getting this for Firefox in (very late) 2016 while Chrome has had this since 2008 and IE since 2009?

Seriously, I understand the need for competition in the browser, and wish there was a viable alternative to chrome on things that aren't Windows, but the failure of Firefox to keep pace is really disappointing.

Slow and lacking basic features for years almost makes Firefox feel like the new IE, but at least we can be thankful that not many people are stuck with it.

To put this in perspective, Firefox has lagged on multi-process for 8 years. Everyone's beloved IE6 only had 5 years of ruining the internet before it was replaced.

Re: Update on Multi-Process Firefox

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

1Password unfortunately is still incompatible so force needs to be applied. But in general I share your observation - runs very smooth.

Why use 1Password, rather than Firefox Sync/Accounts?

Because it supports multi-browser, cross-platform and has way more features than FF sync.

Re: Update on Multi-Process Firefox

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post #22

Does anyone have insight on why we're getting this for Firefox in (very late) 2016 while Chrome has had this since 2008 and IE since 2009? Seriously, I understand the need for competition in the browser, and wish there was a viable alternative to chrome on things that aren't Windows, but the failure of Firefox to keep pace is really disappointing. Slow and lacking basic features for years almost makes Firefox feel li…

I do recall IE6. It had many, many other issues besides "it's a resource hog". As for "lacks basic features," I do not recall anything that I would call "a basic feature" coming out in the browser landscape for the few recent years. A lot of new, cool stuff, yes; but nothing that would make me go "ooh, that's what I was missing all this time!"

(Disclaimer: user of Chromium,Chrome,FF,Midori,K-Meleon,various Operae,IE and "not-IE-whatever-it's-called",elinks and other stuff)

Re: Update on Multi-Process Firefox

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

1Password unfortunately is still incompatible so force needs to be applied. But in general I share your observation - runs very smooth.

Why use 1Password, rather than Firefox Sync/Accounts?

I have a few reasons to prefer 1P over a browser based option:

1Password doesn't require a cloud sync. I just use the local wifi sync. I'm less worried about data breaches as a result.

1Password lets me save more than browser passwords: especially on mobile where I have lots of apps to log into, which shares a password with a desktop website.

Also, I store additional data (like bank info, account numbers, etc) in 1P, and browsers don't have UX for that, even if the back end could be useful for that.

It also doesn't lock me into a browser.

Re: Update on Multi-Process Firefox

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FWIW, I've been running FF multiprocess with a pile of extensions since it was first introduced (there's a preference you can set to say "yes really I want to do this and I realise I get to keep both pieces"). A few extensions failed, but mostly it's been wonderful and I would recommend it to any techie user.

How to force it on: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis#Force_Enable

Re: Update on Multi-Process Firefox

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post #22

Does anyone have insight on why we're getting this for Firefox in (very late) 2016 while Chrome has had this since 2008 and IE since 2009? Seriously, I understand the need for competition in the browser, and wish there was a viable alternative to chrome on things that aren't Windows, but the failure of Firefox to keep pace is really disappointing. Slow and lacking basic features for years almost makes Firefox feel li…

Firefox supported way more in the way of extensions and alterations then chrome, things like the zotero citation manager, grease monkey for user scripts, tree tyle tab for modifying the tab and bookmark menus, downthemall download manager, and importantly, TOR. Some of these could be ported to chrome, but they were easier to implement on firefox.

It's always been incredibly hackable, in the classic sense. That ability and the legacy of tools built on top of firefox was an important feature that they have largely maintained.

Chrome not only didn't have a legacy but still may break things for developers and sometimes just shrug off their complaints. It's a powerful browser, but it's focused on the needs of the parent company.

Re: Update on Multi-Process Firefox

#29
post #22

Does anyone have insight on why we're getting this for Firefox in (very late) 2016 while Chrome has had this since 2008 and IE since 2009? Seriously, I understand the need for competition in the browser, and wish there was a viable alternative to chrome on things that aren't Windows, but the failure of Firefox to keep pace is really disappointing. Slow and lacking basic features for years almost makes Firefox feel li…

Firefox has cooler extensions than Chrome. It took ages to create shims for all the troublesome internal APIs that popular extensions use, to make them keep working with multi-process.

Re: Update on Multi-Process Firefox

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post #22

Does anyone have insight on why we're getting this for Firefox in (very late) 2016 while Chrome has had this since 2008 and IE since 2009? Seriously, I understand the need for competition in the browser, and wish there was a viable alternative to chrome on things that aren't Windows, but the failure of Firefox to keep pace is really disappointing. Slow and lacking basic features for years almost makes Firefox feel li…

IE has had that for many decades.

One process per tab since forever. (Well, more like one process per window, because there weren't tabs at first).

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