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Android Tablet Crashes during Flash Demo

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Re: Android Tablet Crashes during Flash Demo

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Post by kylemathews »

I'm here at the web2.0 expo and played with the Android tablet for 10-15 minutes today as well as with their Droid phone that has flash installed.

A few notes. I didn't see any software crashes. The tablet, on the other hand, did have quite a few hardware problems. But that's because it was literally made just this demo. The tablet is encased in a clear plastic case that looked like it was hacked together in some lab. One of the Adobe employees told me it had "a motherboard and NVIDIA card". Some of the hardware connections were loose apparently because when I would set it down on the table a bit too sharply, some of the buttons would fire sometimes sending me back to the home screen. The touch screen didn't seem the best quality as someone else noticed. It wasn't very responsive. Not sure if that was a hard drive or software problem.

On the Droid, I watched a movie preview on Yahoo Movies and it played flawlessly.

So as for me, from what I saw today, I'm cautiously optimistic about flash on phones/tablets. I'd still prefer HTML5 of course but flash on phones will work as Flash is slowly replaced over the next 5-6 years.

Re: Android Tablet Crashes during Flash Demo

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Post by anonjon »

loire280 wrote: post #20
cscotta wrote: post #4

Alpha software is alpha-quality. It takes time to get things right. My pre-release stuff is full of bugs...which is why it's pre-release. Seems like it's a bit early to judge the quality of their product.

Assuming that large portions of the Android Flash player are borrowed from the Linux version of Flash, I'm not very hopeful for the final product. Flash Player for Linux is by far the buggiest of the desktop implementations. On the other hand, Linux users may get lucky and indirectly benefit from a renewed push to improve that code base!

haven't had any problems with flash on linux here...

Re: Android Tablet Crashes during Flash Demo

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Post by neonfunk »

cscotta wrote: post #4

Alpha software is alpha-quality. It takes time to get things right. My pre-release stuff is full of bugs...which is why it's pre-release. Seems like it's a bit early to judge the quality of their product.

I'll bet people are only interested in this because it (Flash on Android) was originally described as running "flawlessly". If they had just described it as alpha (and realistically, buggy), this would be a non-story.

Re: Android Tablet Crashes during Flash Demo

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Post by catch23 »

cscotta wrote: post #4

Alpha software is alpha-quality. It takes time to get things right. My pre-release stuff is full of bugs...which is why it's pre-release. Seems like it's a bit early to judge the quality of their product.

I'm guessing flash will still crash in the production version, the only difference is that Google will have an android browser similar to Chrome in that flash crashing will not cause the whole browser to crash. I really doubt Adobe can fix all the long standing bugs in Flash before the release if they haven't been able to fix them for the past 5 years.

Re: Android Tablet Crashes during Flash Demo

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Post by ramchip »

Andys wrote: post #15

In other words, its an accurate port of the Flash platform to this new device.

Amusing comment, but I don't really understand why Flash has this reputation of crashing. I don't remember seeing it crash my browser, at least in a very long time. Why is there a "flash is crap" meme? Is it because it's unstable on Linux?

Re: Android Tablet Crashes during Flash Demo

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Post by FluidDjango »

catch23 wrote: post #17
cscotta wrote: post #4

Alpha software is alpha-quality. It takes time to get things right. My pre-release stuff is full of bugs...which is why it's pre-release. Seems like it's a bit early to judge the quality of their product.

The flash video on youtube crashes for me at least once a day on my Mac... so nothing new here. Is the flash player for the mac also alpha quality too?

Short answer: Apparently.

The problem is: They pawn it off as v 1.0 or better :/

Re: Android Tablet Crashes during Flash Demo

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Post by windsurfer »

ramchip wrote: post #26
Andys wrote: post #15

In other words, its an accurate port of the Flash platform to this new device.

Amusing comment, but I don't really understand why Flash has this reputation of crashing. I don't remember seeing it crash my browser, at least in a very long time. Why is there a "flash is crap" meme? Is it because it's unstable on Linux?

It's actually really stable on linux 32 bit. I haven't seen it crash... and i develop for it sometimes.

Re: Android Tablet Crashes during Flash Demo

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Post by stanleydrew »

catch23 wrote: post #18
apike wrote: post #8

If you look at the YouTube player UI in the demo, it appears to be YouTube's HTML5 player, not their Flash player. Edit: I've been corrected here - for some Flash videos, they use the HTML5 style UI, and for some Flash videos they use the old style one. Presumably the demo really was Flash, although I'm not sure why you'd want Flash over HTML5 on a browser that supports it like the Android one.

I'm guessing because their HTML5 one doesn't support annotations yet. Even in the chrome browser, the default is still the flash player.

Yeah, they need to figure out how to show ads in the html5 player, then I think the switch will be fairly rapid with Flash being the fallback.
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