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The Future of Cities

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Re: The Future of Cities

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Great concept, but no mention of winter, or poor weather. Would be difficult to grocery shop or go far distances in snow or rain. Cities would have to be as compact as possible for public transport to reach everywhere, and that would be difficult to achieve in already existing cities with a lot of legacy infrastructure.

Re: The Future of Cities

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> For a rich white dude up in a 50th floor penthouse, “the future of cities” might mean zipping around in a flying car while a robot jerks you off and a drone delivers your pizza. The guy must think people of color are incapable of attaining that level of wealth. Unintentional racism, but racism all the same.

See, I'm a "white dude" yet I don't find this statement racist in the slightest. It's an objective truth that white males are disproportionately wealthier than any other demographic. It's just like saying Baby Boomers are the wealthiest generation at the expense of GenX and Millenials: fact.

The author never said nor implied that white males are the only rich people in society. Whether or not money inherently makes you out of touch with the rest of society, though, I'll leave for another day...

Re: The Future of Cities

#43

Great concept, but no mention of winter, or poor weather. Would be difficult to grocery shop or go far distances in snow or rain. Cities would have to be as compact as possible for public transport to reach everywhere, and that would be difficult to achieve in already existing cities with a lot of legacy infrastructure.

Or you could put on a coat.

Re: The Future of Cities

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> My personal approach is to build up better and better datasets (simulated, some taken from open datasets like the Building Performance Database) to slowly but surely force some evidence into these discussions. You'll fail using that approach. The NIMBYs don't make their decisions based on data. They make their opinions based on emotion. If you want to change their minds you need to appeal to their emotions. Run com…

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I'm not sure you can change the NIMBYs minds, but you don't have to. You just have to get the planning commission to stop listening to the NIMBYs. You might be able to do that with enough evidence.

Re: The Future of Cities

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> For a rich white dude up in a 50th floor penthouse, “the future of cities” might mean zipping around in a flying car while a robot jerks you off and a drone delivers your pizza. The guy must think people of color are incapable of attaining that level of wealth. Unintentional racism, but racism all the same.

Um, did you think that quote was a positive description?

Re: The Future of Cities

#46

> For a rich white dude up in a 50th floor penthouse, “the future of cities” might mean zipping around in a flying car while a robot jerks you off and a drone delivers your pizza. The guy must think people of color are incapable of attaining that level of wealth. Unintentional racism, but racism all the same.

See, I'm a "white dude" yet I don't find this statement racist in the slightest. It's an objective truth that white males are disproportionately wealthier than any other demographic. It's just like saying Baby Boomers are the wealthiest generation at the expense of GenX and Millenials: fact. The author never said nor implied that white males are the only rich people in society. Whether or not money inherently makes y…

> See, I'm a "white dude" yet I don't find this statement racist in the slightest.

As a white dude, would you have thought it racist if that line had been modified to read:

"For a Hip-Hop mogul wearing a half-pound of gold chains around his neck, and $400 basketball shoes on his feet, 'the future of cities' might mean zipping around in a flying car while a robot jerks you off and a drone delivers your bottles of Cristal."

Seriously, would you deem that racist or not?

Re: The Future of Cities

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> My two cents: this incident illustrates the biggest obstacle to progressive urban policies: upper-middle class NIMBYs politics inform city planners, which ultimately results in policies that favor NIMBYs. Ultimately its council that approves/disapproves development, so I think while you're right here that NIMBYs are dominant at the community consultation level, and can impact design choices here, ultimately this is…

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Re: The Future of Cities

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Don't include the tower in the initial reveal. Figure out a way to make it someone else's idea, that someone being the person who can sell it.

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Re: The Future of Cities

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See, I'm a "white dude" yet I don't find this statement racist in the slightest. It's an objective truth that white males are disproportionately wealthier than any other demographic. It's just like saying Baby Boomers are the wealthiest generation at the expense of GenX and Millenials: fact. The author never said nor implied that white males are the only rich people in society. Whether or not money inherently makes y…

> See, I'm a "white dude" yet I don't find this statement racist in the slightest. As a white dude, would you have thought it racist if that line had been modified to read: "For a Hip-Hop mogul wearing a half-pound of gold chains around his neck, and $400 basketball shoes on his feet, 'the future of cities' might mean zipping around in a flying car while a robot jerks you off and a drone delivers your bottles of Cris…

I would call your description a stereotype, excluding the flying car and robot, but I'm sure there are also white, hip hop dudes that fit there as well.

Re: The Future of Cities

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

See, I'm a "white dude" yet I don't find this statement racist in the slightest. It's an objective truth that white males are disproportionately wealthier than any other demographic. It's just like saying Baby Boomers are the wealthiest generation at the expense of GenX and Millenials: fact. The author never said nor implied that white males are the only rich people in society. Whether or not money inherently makes y…

> See, I'm a "white dude" yet I don't find this statement racist in the slightest. As a white dude, would you have thought it racist if that line had been modified to read: "For a Hip-Hop mogul wearing a half-pound of gold chains around his neck, and $400 basketball shoes on his feet, 'the future of cities' might mean zipping around in a flying car while a robot jerks you off and a drone delivers your bottles of Cris…

The only thing making me hesitant to give a simple yes/no answer is the implication of tieing my example to a "hip-hop mogul wearing a half-pount of gold chains around his neck and $400 basketball shoes on his feet" - are you trying to imply these people are systematically black? And if so, are you trying to imply that most rich black men dress like this?

If you are (which I don't think you are), I think you can answer your own question.

If not, then I don't think the comparison stands: you're implying a wealthy individual ("a Hip-Hop mogul") is representative of a whole race when his circumstances are (for lack of better wording) merely an exception to the rule, whereas "rich white men" is, objectively, a non-misleading statement, as white men are statistically the wealthiest demographic.

Of course, I could have read to deep into your question entirely - I'm not an expert in this field. Thank you for the thought provoking discussion regardless, though.

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