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Twitter’s Chief Technology Officer to Leave Company

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Re: Twitter’s Chief Technology Officer to Leave Company

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Your post implies they made the libraries you listed, but they certainly didn't make Mesos or most of those things.

I think Mesos is the only one from that list they didn't make, they were just an early adopter on that one

Storm shouldn't really be on the list fwiw. They bought it and then replaced it with Heron after a couple years but barely worked on Storm in the interim. That was all Nathan.

Re: Twitter’s Chief Technology Officer to Leave Company

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I hope using a tweetstorm to announce his departure was a subtle shot at the company's inability to ship a product the way people want to use it.

FWIW, he used our product http://writerack.com to do his Tweetstorm. I feel great!!

You own storm-view looks broken https://writerack.com/crazyfoo/811331557608652800

"Twitter is stronger because w#oneteamneteam" != "Twitter is stronger because we are #oneteam"

Or is that my browser?

Re: Twitter’s Chief Technology Officer to Leave Company

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So you drive away your biggest draw? In the media-centric view of the world, those people would be asking for a cut of revenues. There's clearly a major disconnect from reality on one side or the other here. Any examples of successful businesses that do it the way you describe?

> Any examples of successful businesses that do it the way you describe? Billboard owners

Billboards work because it's captive traffic. Very few if any sites on the net have captive traffic. Twitter certainly doesn't even in the current model and I think the model you're describing would be even harder to manage in terms of spam and abuse, not to mention coordinating with law enforcement. So likely even less captive.

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> harassment I do wonder if this word is even appropriate to the situation. Using twitter seems akin to stepping on a soap box on the town square and shouting every single word you say. Maybe nobody will pay attention to you. Or maybe you'll get a crowd of people who think favorably of you. Maybe someone else will step on his own box and have a conversation with you, but still there for everyone to hear. And it goes…

Everyone is equally "loud" on Twitter. And you're not allowed to hurl racist abuse at speakers in public, either. (You know, if there was some kind of agreement that tweets containing only the wood "boooo" were definitely not harrasment, that might actually be an improvement on the current situation. It's the "I'm going to find you and murder you" and " incoherent string of racial slurs with frog emoji " that are the…

I don't know where you are from but in the US you most certainly are allowed to hurl racist slurs at speakers in public. It's up to the rest of the crowd to then shout back and speak truth back to the racist. As long as the racist is not shouting how to kill said public speaker or speaking libel, he's legally allowed.

Granted, we get into international situations and Twitter is private anyway. Just noting that "allowed" is not as black/white as you paint it and I wouldn't have it any other way. Would rather have minority groups be able to display their true selves to be judged than silenced.

On the "booo" comment though, you may have a helping idea. Maybe instead of a knee-jerk reaction to comment some obscenities, others would just be willing to -1 / boo / disagree in some way. One-click would be used over typing out the comment.

Re: Twitter’s Chief Technology Officer to Leave Company

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Not all politicians retweet white supremacists, though.

To the downvoters: this is directly relevant, as hate speech violates twitter's rules, and they have indicated that they will apply these rules to Trump's account just like anyone else's: > Asked whether Twitter would ever consider banning key government officials or even the president himself, a company spokesperson responded via email: “The Twitter Rules prohibit violent threats, harassment, hateful conduct, and mu…

The anti-"hate speech" hysteria is simply reflective of the Silicon Valley political bubble, and its inevitable biases. The MTV video would have been considered hate speech had it been directed at any other ethnicity.

Twitter going out of their way to say that they might ban the US President isn't exactly a sign of the professionalism and maturity people expect from multinational executives.

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There is this thing called the foundation of America and it centres on what's called the 1st amendment. If you think twitter or any social platform should interfere with that and somehow grants him a platform to destroy the world then I suggest you re-evaluate your stance, stop over reacting like a 15 year old, and pick up a copy of 1984.

I disagree with SapphireSun but Twitter isn't the gov't. https://xkcd.com/1357/

Munroe should really just stick to science and quit trying to be an expert in things where he has no experience.

Re: Twitter’s Chief Technology Officer to Leave Company

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> harassment I do wonder if this word is even appropriate to the situation. Using twitter seems akin to stepping on a soap box on the town square and shouting every single word you say. Maybe nobody will pay attention to you. Or maybe you'll get a crowd of people who think favorably of you. Maybe someone else will step on his own box and have a conversation with you, but still there for everyone to hear. And it goes…

Everyone is equally "loud" on Twitter. And you're not allowed to hurl racist abuse at speakers in public, either. (You know, if there was some kind of agreement that tweets containing only the wood "boooo" were definitely not harrasment, that might actually be an improvement on the current situation. It's the "I'm going to find you and murder you" and " incoherent string of racial slurs with frog emoji " that are the…

In the US, hate speech is protected by the First Amendment "as long as it doesn't promote imminent violence".[1]

1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech#United_States

Re: Twitter’s Chief Technology Officer to Leave Company

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On the other hand, it's perfectly reasonable to remove some disruptive individual from a lecture (think someone repeatedly shouting the name of a soda in order to disrupt the lecture, not an invited speaker). This is the same sort of removal of ideas from the marketplace that you are talking about, it's just probably not one you want to use as a test for what you have articulated.

The two are fundamentally different platforms. Twitter is an open space provided as a free service to the public at large, while a lecture is a fundamentally closed platform (only the lecturer speaks) only open to those enrolled in a specific class. That said, even in the example you give it is not always considered appropriate to remove people causing disruption. Consider, for example, a conservative speaker giving…

The point of my comment is that it's an ideal rather than a principle. If you concede that it is appropriate to control the lecture space, you concede that it isn't a principle.

At that point we are discussing the rules about when it is appropriate to have private controls on speech rather than our outrage at someone having a private control on speech.

Re: Twitter’s Chief Technology Officer to Leave Company

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Twitter is a business model that will be studied for years IMHO. No clear path to revenue, viral adoption, and very little product development away from its core competencies. I use Twitter often, but it has always seemed like a platform most useful if you have something to promote. One big flaw has been trying to find value to ordinary users who want to do something beyond typing into an echo chamber. If Twitter goe…

> it has always seemed like a platform most useful if you have something to promote

Twitter is most used for 2 things:

- to promote your own brand (which includes companies like CNN & Google, as well as authors, writers and celebrities)

- to gossip about what you ate for lunch, or how everything is falling apart and the world has never been so bad, or whine about Mondays

The users that do #1 tend to do very little of #2, and vice versa. Listening to #2 will add very little value to your life except extra anxiety and distraction, but #2 is needed because they're the people to whom brands are promoting themselves.

The problem is people keep coming back to Facebook to keep up with friends, and people keep coming back to Twitter to watch and participate in drama. The former will inevitably be more engaged with the advertising than the latter, and Twitter can't change that.

Re: Twitter’s Chief Technology Officer to Leave Company

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A lot of Twitter's management in product/engineering seems to be from a very particular demographic. Graduated Stanford in early 2000s and quickly rose up the ladder in Google -- Alex Roetter, Josh McFarland, Keith Coleman. Aside from being what I assume to be exceptionally talented individuals, what do you guys think separates these people from their peers to make it to the VP level so quickly? As someone just getti…

They are not that good, rising mainly due to timing and the political climate.
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