So yes, it's happening. I say this as someone who generally prefers to work onsite...
Ask HN: How is the status of remote working in Europe?
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#22Besides, the pay is shit. European companies think 40k is a great salary for an engineer. Better rates to be had in murica. much better. 3-4x+ better.
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#23Absolute shit. Its easier to get a contract from a US firm working from europe than it is to actually work remote in europe for a european company. Besides, the pay is shit. European companies think 40k is a great salary for an engineer. Better rates to be had in murica. much better. 3-4x+ better.
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#24In the UK, I've noticed remote working has become more and more common, particularly in the last 2 or 3 years. Not only are there more distributed companies, but commutes in the London area are quite long as people have to live far out. So yes, it's happening. I say this as someone who generally prefers to work onsite...
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#25Re: Ask HN: How is the status of remote working in Europe?
#26Absolute shit. Its easier to get a contract from a US firm working from europe than it is to actually work remote in europe for a european company. Besides, the pay is shit. European companies think 40k is a great salary for an engineer. Better rates to be had in murica. much better. 3-4x+ better.
How easy it was to get US clients? In my experience, Americans are afraid of dealing with people from "overseas". I did have a couple of US clients though.
Step 1: Don't call yourself a freelancer. Freelancers are the idiots who get paid after the fact, can't speak proper english and have to deal with money-conscious clients who think $5000 is a lot of cash. If you do contract work, you are a CONSULTANT. You CONSULT. The word implies you know more about what you're doing than your client. Words are powerful.
Step 2: Have a skillset that is in demand.
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Get Rich
Re: Ask HN: How is the status of remote working in Europe?
#27In Europe software companies are more like factories. You punch in, work like a slave all day, then punch out. The socialist mindset created retarded managers. So anything deviating from the standard factory setup is seen as depravity. Europeans don't understand technology. For them software development is like manual labor. Get some monkeys, throw them some peanuts and use a whip to make them do stuff. Overall, remo…
That's weird thing to say, I guess no replies from guys in UK (London & rest of the country). It's similar for Netherlands and I know (from my experience) in Germany (Berlin). 'In Europe software companies are more like factories. You punch in, work like a slave all day, then punch out.' > again not sure which countries you speak about (ukraine or romania lol?), maybe it's like that in some, but some have very relaxe…
Eastern Europe is actually pretty great because it has an American influence. No stupid EU brainwashing. Only capitalism. Also, your tone about Ukraine and Romania is condescending. Not very nice.
'again, there're tons of EU based remote work, and I just won't comment on the rest of this generalisation.' > It's low quality. Basically, remote work in Europe means "Let's find some third-world slaves that will work for cheap.". They offer remote because they don't want to pay the high salaries in their own countries.
I've got a nice remote offers from Spain and Netherlands as we, despite being in UK. I'm getting them all the time.' > I get these offers all the time. And they all offer average salaries. They search in other countries because they are trying to find cheap slaves.
'my EU company gives me a lot of benefits that guys in US don't see (despite that average salary I'd say is lower in here)' > Your mistake was accepting the lower salary. But it's understandable since you don't seem to be familiar with how things actually work.
Just to give you an idea, I work in Eastern Europe. And the equivalent salary in UK to maintain my quality of life would be about 150k GBP. I'm happy that you're happy. But I'm pretty sure you're concentrating too much on the silver lining.
I worked for European companies. And I worked for American companies with branches in Europe. And American companies are simply on another level. They might suck in the US, but they don't when they come to Europe.
Re: Ask HN: How is the status of remote working in Europe?
#28In Europe software companies are more like factories. You punch in, work like a slave all day, then punch out. The socialist mindset created retarded managers. So anything deviating from the standard factory setup is seen as depravity. Europeans don't understand technology. For them software development is like manual labor. Get some monkeys, throw them some peanuts and use a whip to make them do stuff. Overall, remo…
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
What benefits does the EU company give you more beside more free days compared to US ?
I'll just mention one thing, maybe that's not important for you - US maternity law, come on... it's a joke ;) all of this stuff is way in favour in most countries of Europe. btw. I like my free days, I like a lot the extra ones (not the ones that companies are obligated to) if you work for good company. time is precious so a lot of companies are very flexible, in here it's nothing new & nothing uncommon to do 4 days…
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#30In Europe software companies are more like factories. You punch in, work like a slave all day, then punch out. The socialist mindset created retarded managers. So anything deviating from the standard factory setup is seen as depravity. Europeans don't understand technology. For them software development is like manual labor. Get some monkeys, throw them some peanuts and use a whip to make them do stuff. Overall, remo…
> Europeans work like a slave all day Except in holidays > The socialist mindset created retarded managers Not all the retarded managers are socialists, and not all managers are retarded. Do you have free universal medical care for all citizens yet? > Europeans don't understand technology Not a single european country in the list of the five most polluting countries in the planet. Congratulations to USA for ranking a…
'Do you have free universal medical care for all citizens yet?' > Yes, I live in Europe.
'Not a single european country in the list of the five most polluting countries in the planet' > You are very good at building these straw men. Not sure what understanding technology has to do with pollution.