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Amazon Sells Out of Echo Speakers in Midst of Holiday Rush

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Re: Amazon Sells Out of Echo Speakers in Midst of Holiday Rush

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Amazon says that only after you say the hotword it transmits voice to servers.

Well then we can definitely trust them.

If they lie about this in general(and enable blanket surveillance), it would be relatively easy to detect , and hurt Amazon's brand.

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Clearly, people love these things. I have a few friends who own it and say it's an amazing product; and commenters on HN have expressed their enthusiasm for it as well. There is a question that's been bothering me for years now, to which I still don't have an answer, which is: does modern technology suck just for me, or am I just less tolerant of defects than most people are? I am currently typing this from a 2016 ma…

"The only reason coders' computers work better than non-coders' computers is coders know computers are schizophrenic little children with auto-immune diseases and we don't beat them when they're bad."

https://www.stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks

As software has taken over everything, we can safely extend this to all technologies.

Re: Amazon Sells Out of Echo Speakers in Midst of Holiday Rush

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Clearly, people love these things. I have a few friends who own it and say it's an amazing product; and commenters on HN have expressed their enthusiasm for it as well. There is a question that's been bothering me for years now, to which I still don't have an answer, which is: does modern technology suck just for me, or am I just less tolerant of defects than most people are? I am currently typing this from a 2016 ma…

Consumer networking gear is fantastically bad. The exception for most consumer purposes has been the Apple AirPort Extreme paired with a Mac but now that's about to be cut.

I use Ruckus Wireless WiFi paired with PFSense and HP Layer 2 & Layer 3 switching at home. I chose a building with 1Gbit fiber to my unit.

Things work great for me. The cost is crazy high for the typical consumer though. If I didn't run my own business from home I couldn't afford it.

Re: Amazon Sells Out of Echo Speakers in Midst of Holiday Rush

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> 2. There's no reason why your macbook should keep disconnecting from Wifi. Perhaps you live somewhere with a lot of RF noise? Or you have a cheap/crappy router? Again, this is an issue which many people don't face. Mostly Wifi just works. I've went through tons of routers, and on those routers all available firmwares (dd-wrt. open-wrt, tomato, etc). I've been using an Asus RT-AC87U for the last couple of years now,…

I have the same router with the same firmware. I'm using a mid-2014 MBP Retina and my Echo Dot works great along with all my wireless devices both in 2.4G and 5G. My setup is basically Internet -> pfSense -> RT-AC87U with Webpass. Over 5G, I get 250+ mbit.

Oh, yes, the wireless performance I get is great, it's the reliability I take issue with. You never get any disconnects or hickups?

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> But when it comes to smart home or networking or car electronics or various other places where markets are still fragmented such that earnings per device are small to negative, it's clear that the simpler the better. It's not just about markets being small. Many times it's about designers pushing form over function, and people not realising what they're losing. Take induction hobs, for instance. I had to go out of…

Funny that you mention induction stoves - that's exactly what I was discussing among other things in above link. I hate those touch stoves with a passion. What were they thinking? It has one job !

> I hate those touch stoves with a passion. What were they thinking? It has one job!

They're easier to clean. They look better. They're possibly cheaper.

Re: Amazon Sells Out of Echo Speakers in Midst of Holiday Rush

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Amazon says that only after you say the hotword it transmits voice to servers.

Well then we can definitely trust them.

You can trust them as much as the manufacturer of your phone. No difference there, phones could also always listen.

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I had one for two weeks and sent it back. The requirement to summon an app before asking your question is clumsy and really takes the "magic" out of the experience. I'm waiting for the Google Home to be available.

Critically lacking in both ecosystems, is the ability to handle multiple user profiles so that it can recognise who is asking the question and tailor the answer to that users schedule, travel etc.

Re: Amazon Sells Out of Echo Speakers in Midst of Holiday Rush

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Clearly, people love these things. I have a few friends who own it and say it's an amazing product; and commenters on HN have expressed their enthusiasm for it as well. There is a question that's been bothering me for years now, to which I still don't have an answer, which is: does modern technology suck just for me, or am I just less tolerant of defects than most people are? I am currently typing this from a 2016 ma…

It's hard to compare objectively. I'm used to retrying or even working around some issues without consciously noticing (like the story of Turing's bicycle chain). I don't think my tech goes wrong very often - certainly not often enough to be worth putting up with the weight of paper books or the immense size and fragility of records. But sometimes that's because I'm working around it without noticing.

Re: Amazon Sells Out of Echo Speakers in Midst of Holiday Rush

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I have the same router with the same firmware. I'm using a mid-2014 MBP Retina and my Echo Dot works great along with all my wireless devices both in 2.4G and 5G. My setup is basically Internet -> pfSense -> RT-AC87U with Webpass. Over 5G, I get 250+ mbit.

Oh, yes, the wireless performance I get is great, it's the reliability I take issue with. You never get any disconnects or hickups?

I have the exact same router (with Merlins firmware) and never get any disconnects and I have a lot of devices (mbp, macbook air, macbook, iphones, android tablet and ipad).

Do you live in an area with a lot of RF noise? or with a lot of other Wifi networks? I've stayed for a month in New York last year at a place with a lot of other wifi networks and my Macbooks became much more flaky when connecting to wifi.

Maybe you can try changing the wifi channel?

But I can say that having an internet connection that's not great definitely creates a lot of problem and additional frustration. I was way more frustrated when I stayed that month in New York (for some reason the internet connection had intermittent packet loss), I'm really quite surprised at how bad internet connections are in the US.

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what are people actually using these for? i'm legitimately curious about the use cases for this. if you have an android phone or iphone or smartwatch, you already can "Hey Siri/Google" whatever you want, including playing music. is it for light switches? Hey Siri/Google already does this, no? also, how many people have 50$ wifi connected bulbs? and isn't the most convenient way to turn on a light switch still just ph…

I have one in my bathroom and "Alexa, news" is part of every morning.

Other than that, I don't know. I tried to get it to play a podcast today, but it wouldn't.

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