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‘MormonWikileaks’ website launched, seeking transparency in LDS Church

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Re: ‘MormonWikileaks’ website launched, seeking transparency in LDS Church

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@henrikschroder - Would you mind giving a citation that links Utah's issue of depression with Mormonism? After all, there are a lot of non-Mormons living there too. The last I read, scientists believed that the mountain states suffered from depression due to altitude and thin air ( http://www.livescience.com/50813-low-oxygen-increase-depress... ) Also, I couldn't find any statistics on just teen suicides, but accordi…

Ask the fine people here: https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/ You'll get a lot of answers.

Be cautious in that subreddit. There are a lot of people with chips on their shoulders who are more interested in anti-mormon rhetoric than truth. I'd recommend r/mormon instead. It has a better mix of active and ex-mormons and the dialogue is more civil.

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Citation? As a member the LDS church, I have never been urged to shun those who have left, and find the idea extremely deplorable.

Many Jack and Jill Mormons in Utah where I lived for a while, and folks there as well whom had gotten themselves stricken from the records. I also learned from native Utahns that they had been ostracized in high school for not being part of the LDS community. It happens, we're all human. All we can try to do is do better. I did meet many fine folks there as well, among the best the world has to offer.

Fair enough. I grew up outside of Utah, and having spent a number of years living in Utah I must admit that it has people that haven't ever learned how to have a positive relationship with somebody of a different belief system. It's not nearly as big of a problem outside of Utah though.

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"Meekness" is encouraged among the faithful corpus. I would agree that I have met many kind and decent members of the LDS church, but I have also seen how the Church urges families to threaten or enact shunning of their relatives who choose to leave the Church, and their forays into political activism are inhumane.

I come at this as an active Mormon, but I see a consistent effort on the part of the leadership to make it clear that shunning shouldn't happen. I definitely see individuals with issues on this, but I haven't seen it as institutional, even though I've had a number of family members leave the church.

Well, as long as you don't count BYU...

Re: ‘MormonWikileaks’ website launched, seeking transparency in LDS Church

#54

@henrikschroder - Would you mind giving a citation that links Utah's issue of depression with Mormonism? After all, there are a lot of non-Mormons living there too. The last I read, scientists believed that the mountain states suffered from depression due to altitude and thin air ( http://www.livescience.com/50813-low-oxygen-increase-depress... ) Also, I couldn't find any statistics on just teen suicides, but accordi…

Ask the fine people here: https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/ You'll get a lot of answers.

Perhaps you could help me understand how a bunch of anonymous rancor on Reddit acts as a citation that proves your previous commentary. I'm looking for a scholarly citation. Not opinion and blither.

Re: ‘MormonWikileaks’ website launched, seeking transparency in LDS Church

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As a Mormon, I have a hard time imagining this site being very interesting. Between fairmormon.org, lds.org, all the anti-Mormon sites, and the missionary duos, just waiting to knock on a door near you, I think the world already has a pretty clear view into the workings of the Mormon church, their history, and their beliefs. Sure, the Mormon church "hides" things, but most of that stuff has to do with disciplinary co…

Part of the goal is to show the church is fundamentally a business.

To what end?

Re: ‘MormonWikileaks’ website launched, seeking transparency in LDS Church

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Ask the fine people here: https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/ You'll get a lot of answers.

Perhaps you could help me understand how a bunch of anonymous rancor on Reddit acts as a citation that proves your previous commentary. I'm looking for a scholarly citation. Not opinion and blither.

It's funny, you just see anonymous rancor, but I see people finally breaking free from their shackles and stepping out into the light. It's truly beautiful.

Re: ‘MormonWikileaks’ website launched, seeking transparency in LDS Church

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Are you a Mormon? I'm going to bet yes.

Please don't comment like this here. It's uncivil to invoke intimate personal details as ammunition in an argument. Maybe you didn't mean it that way, but if you're going to raise something like this, the burden is on you to show that you don't.

We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13226171 and marked it off-topic.

Re: ‘MormonWikileaks’ website launched, seeking transparency in LDS Church

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps you could help me understand how a bunch of anonymous rancor on Reddit acts as a citation that proves your previous commentary. I'm looking for a scholarly citation. Not opinion and blither.

It's funny, you just see anonymous rancor, but I see people finally breaking free from their shackles and stepping out into the light. It's truly beautiful.

Please keep religious flamewars off HN.

Re: ‘MormonWikileaks’ website launched, seeking transparency in LDS Church

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Of course they are nice, every salesman is nice to future prospects. They want you to join their cult. In reality, the people of Utah consume the most anti-depressants in the US, teen suicide rates are among the highest in the country, and if you're not a straight, white, male, mormonism is a terrible environment.

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