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Re: Building Jarvis

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Post by ksk »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #165
sytelus wrote: post #149

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No, it doesn't work that way. CEOs/VPs never had house chores as major time sink. When you are at that level, you are responsible for 1000+ employees, 100s of teams and dozens of projects. Each project and team requires at least quarterly review, funding, strategy, motivation, vision, market analysis, HR, budgeting, PR, partners and so on. A typical CEO/VP works well over 12 hours, often at least 14 hours and many wo…

>If you look at their schedules, you had be quite wrong. // Do you have any evidence to show your affirmation that CEOs work really hard and "often at least 14 hours and many work one weekend days" is true and other's affirmations that they "play golf all day" is absolutely false?

What are you willing to consider as evidence? The internet is littered with hundreds of articles, interviews, anecdotes of CEOs working long hours to build up the company, bring in new business, keep existing business, etc (and if you're feeling a bit grumpy today, yes, also to enrich themselves).

Re: Building Jarvis

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Post by ethbro »

hacker_9 wrote: post #183
haser_au wrote: post #179

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Have a read of this; http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolu... It's a very long read, but it will give you a much better overview of AI and the different "calibres" than I could possibly try to in a HN comment. What Mark has used here is "Artificial Narrow Intelligence (ANI)", the first of three levels/calibres of AI. Level 2 is "Artificial General Intelligence (AGI)", otherwise known as "Human…

sigh this is why I don't usually get involved in arguments about whether something is considered AI or not; it just devolves into people trying to define and redefine what the word 'AI' even means. Final word: I follow this stuff closely and read the research articles, and what we currently have is really great, but it's still just pulling the wool over your eyes. These techniques and algorithms trick you into thinki…

> parlour trick in comparison to what the brain is doing

That's a good turn of phrase, because it speaks to the real rub between algorithmic insufficiency and hardware insufficiency. From my reading, it seems fair to say that "strong general AI" will require some product of both to be realized and that our current hardware capabilities likely fall short of the minimum requirement (even with optimal algorithms).

Were they imagining exascale computing when Quicksort was dreamed up in 1959? No. But does that make it any less important?

Re: Building Jarvis

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Post by ksk »

beeker87 wrote: post #47

Is anyone else seeing the possible security risk shown in the 'Vision and Face Recognition' section? The main concern I would have is someone spoofing the visual recognition system with something as crude as photographs, or something more advanced like a mask. He states in that section, "Once it identifies the person, it checks a list to confirm I'm expecting that person, and if I am then it will let them in and tell…

There are already many ways of breaking into a house. Also, you're confusing a personal project/hack with a commercial-grade security system.

Re: Building Jarvis

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Post by pfarnsworth »

sytelus wrote: post #149
ryandrake wrote: post #85

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I dunno--like any CEO or even VP or SVP-level executive, I'm sure he can afford executive assistants at work and nannies/assistants/drivers/servants at home to take care of all the normal mundane aspects of life that suck up so much of normal people's time, getting in the way of side projects. I'd guess he has more free time than the random "3rd engineer from the left" on one of his company's projects.

No, it doesn't work that way. CEOs/VPs never had house chores as major time sink. When you are at that level, you are responsible for 1000+ employees, 100s of teams and dozens of projects. Each project and team requires at least quarterly review, funding, strategy, motivation, vision, market analysis, HR, budgeting, PR, partners and so on. A typical CEO/VP works well over 12 hours, often at least 14 hours and many wo…

The CEO of the last startup I worked at had enough time to take flying lessons and get his pilot's license.

Re: Building Jarvis

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Post by randyrand »

pfarnsworth wrote: post #254
sytelus wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it doesn't work that way. CEOs/VPs never had house chores as major time sink. When you are at that level, you are responsible for 1000+ employees, 100s of teams and dozens of projects. Each project and team requires at least quarterly review, funding, strategy, motivation, vision, market analysis, HR, budgeting, PR, partners and so on. A typical CEO/VP works well over 12 hours, often at least 14 hours and many wo…

The CEO of the last startup I worked at had enough time to take flying lessons and get his pilot's license.

Comparing FB's CEO to a startup's CEO is naive.

Re: Building Jarvis

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

boulos wrote: post #226
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #168

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Could you explain your comment for us? I'd guess that maybe Canadians are known for leaving their homes unlocked??

This is a reference to a scene from the Michael Moore movie Bowling for Columbine , where he is walking in a Canadian neighborhood and just opens the front door of someone's house. I couldn't find a better clip than this one: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pjJbtb4Bs0Q

Huh, never lock the door when I'm in the house, except at night ... is that unusual? Live in a smaller UK city. Perhaps if we had anything worth stealing it'd be different.

Is it perhaps the US Americans are the peculiar ones and other countries are more like Canada?

Re: Building Jarvis

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

moxious wrote: post #197
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #165

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>If you look at their schedules, you had be quite wrong. // Do you have any evidence to show your affirmation that CEOs work really hard and "often at least 14 hours and many work one weekend days" is true and other's affirmations that they "play golf all day" is absolutely false?

What makes you think that working and playing golf all day are even different things? Larry Ellison was renowned for doing massive sales deals of Oracle on golf courses. If you get in 18 holes and leave with $10 million, were you not working? At executive levels a part of the job deals with relationships, and those are work. Much less so the "nose to the grindstone in front of the computer" sort of work.

Clearly I've been thinking about it all wrong. When the CEO eats a lavish meal with a CEO from another company, they're not having lunch they're working hard; probably just as hard as the peons doing the manufacturing, cleaning the plant, driving the forklifts or whatever. Just because the sales teams have already negotiated the deal and the CEO only has to eat a meal and sign their name doesn't mean they're not working hard, at all.

Indeed if you get invited away to a person's private island and then they later buy from the company you "work" at then that holiday was far more work than someone spending 12 hour shifts, standing, poring over circuit boards with a soldering iron or hefting rocks with a pickaxe. That's why the management deserve 200 times the salary of the workers. /s

Truly the relationships aren't important unless the CEOs make it that way. They could just do business, decide they need X amount of pressed steel, sign the contract and not play golf and have a luxurious meal. But instead they decide that only companies that kowtow to this ideal of greasing the wheels of industry by fattening the C-grades up should win the contracts.

>If you get in 18 holes and leave with $10 million, were you not working? //

No, you're not working, you're exploiting the work of others. What function did the 18 holes of golf serve except to reinforce a despotic nepotism.

The idea that this is work is interestingly both anti-capitalist (it's an inefficient aberration) and anti-socialist (it's setting people over others but providing no useful function).

Re: Building Jarvis

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Post by dx034 »

duderific wrote: post #112
eldavido wrote: post #43

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No kidding. I find it impressive both that he put aside (not found , this had to be a very deliberate decision given the demands on his time) 100 hours to do this, AND that he got all of it done in 100 hours. Is there anything written about his personal schedule/habits? When does he go to sleep at night? When does he wake up? What kind of hours does he work? I mean really, he has a kid, is CEO of a huge company, exer…

When you are a billionaire, you can certainly outsource all that mundane stuff (like raising a kid) to extremely capable helpers. He only has to do exactly what he wants to do. Pretty sure Zuck isn't changing any diapers or walking the dog unless he decides he feels like it right at that moment.

But he's also showing videos how he interacts with his kid. He seems to put some emphasize on his family. Perhaps he just managed to delegate much more than most other CEOs.

Re: Building Jarvis

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Post by dx034 »

ElComradio wrote: post #148
eldavido wrote: post #43

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No kidding. I find it impressive both that he put aside (not found , this had to be a very deliberate decision given the demands on his time) 100 hours to do this, AND that he got all of it done in 100 hours. Is there anything written about his personal schedule/habits? When does he go to sleep at night? When does he wake up? What kind of hours does he work? I mean really, he has a kid, is CEO of a huge company, exer…

Don't forget that as CEO, likely it is true that if he had a question about direction or implementation, a hundred engineers would almost immediately respond to him. This 100 hours' investment isn't like you think of some lone hacker poking around SO; he's gluing something together with instant handholding available.

But the challenge was about doing it by himself. I'm sure he knew who to ask when he was stuck, but don't think he let others write the code.

Re: Building Jarvis

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Post by snowfly_shubi »

Now i don't know how much of this was his "Personal Project" but to me it seems more or less as facebook's or better yet mark zuckerberg's marketing strategy to get into the Home Assistance field. I am sure Facebook's Personal Assistant is not that far.
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