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Re: 20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT

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"I’d argue that this is probably the single most important tech acquisition of all time." However, it was not Apple's first choice. They first attempted to acquire Be Inc. (BeOS) but Jean-Louis Gassée held out for $275 million and lost the deal in a surprise move when Apple, instead, bought NeXT.

Heh, threw out my last BeOS floppies yesterday in a cleanup.

Re: 20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT

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This is demonstrably false. MacOS Copland was scrapped in favor of a descendant of NeXTSTEP that became MacOS X. Hundreds (thousands?) of API calls in both Desktop iOS development are prefaced NS_ ... that is NeXTSTEP

This is ridiculous pedantry, but the "NS" prefix actually means "Next / Sun". It was introduced in OpenStep [1], which was supposed to become Sun's GUI layer on Solaris until Java happened. Before the OpenStep revamp, the class prefix used in NeXTSTEP was "NX". I think there are still some lingering NX* classes/functions you might see in AppKit stack traces. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStep

That's an amazing factoid. "NS" standing for NeXTSTEP would then be a popular misconception, then. It also introduces an interesting hypothetical of what if Sun ended up adopting OpenStep, if Java was not developed in time or fell through or whatever.

Re: 20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT

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It would be great if someone wrote an article about the alternate histories where Apple chose other strategies. For instance, what an Apple-Be merge would have resulted in, what kind of products and tech. And how NeXT would have lasted without Apple.

Wow, I haven't heard someone mention BeOs in over a decade. That was a pretty OS, but I'd take that black NeXT case any day. Those NeXT boxes were so cool.

There have been a few late nights where I found myself searching eBay and other places for a used BeBox. Sadly, they're hard to come by (and expensive). I used to have a bunch of NeXT hardware and it is indeed cool. I got rid of it in a move a few years ago because it was just taking up space in my closets, but I still miss it....

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My father's most regretted financial move is ignoring his weird thought to buy 10 shares of Apple stock at this time.

I bought a bit of Apple stock in 2001, when it was in a rut after the dot-com crash... The next year, I sold the stock to buy a frigging 10GB iPod, of all things! That might have been the world's most expensive iPod.

Egh. You're alright. I've a friend who paid 80 bitcoin for a pizza once.

Re: 20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT

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You mean Apple bought back Steve Jobs, right?

Considering the contributions NeXT technology has made to OS X and iOS, no that's an oversimplification.

Jobs brought in a great team from NeXT - like Jon Rubinstein, who oversaw the development of the iMac and the iPod, and later came as close to rescuing Palm, Inc. (with the Pre) as was possible.

Re: 20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT

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I read that the NeXT, let's call it, "adventure", is the reason Apple went with a Linux distribution as basis for their new OS and thus, we're all using OSX now?

You're getting downvoted to hell for a small misunderstanding, and the replies aren't necessarily helping.

NeXT is the reason Apple went with a UNIX-type OS that evolved into OS X, yes.

Linux is also a UNIX-type OS, but is not an ancestor of OS X.

Linux is so popular now that it's easy to identify it with UNIX but historically it's only one of several implementations that work in roughly similar ways.

Other replies are telling you which code OS X was actually descended from.

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I bought a bit of Apple stock in 2001, when it was in a rut after the dot-com crash... The next year, I sold the stock to buy a frigging 10GB iPod, of all things! That might have been the world's most expensive iPod.

Egh. You're alright. I've a friend who paid 80 bitcoin for a pizza once.

I have the transaction record that shows me buying 110 BTC at US$0.02.

Worst thing is that my reasoning was solid. Limited stock of a thing people might want = it'll probably go up.

Actually, no. Worst thing is that I sold them for very little, not long after, probably to buy beer. That is an expensive beer.

Re: 20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT

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macOS (and older OSX releases) are UNIX (see http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/brand3627.htm for certifications). Linux is not UNIX (its not certified - not many are - see http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/index.html ) and could best be described as POSIX like.

Thanks for the explanation. I thought Unix and Linux had something to do with eachother, but looking at the downvotes, I was wrong :D

There's the recursive acronym for GNU: "GNU's Not Unix!" due to GNU/Linux's Unix-like qualities. I think you can be forgiven for comparing the two :)

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It actually reads like a solid fiction book, except that it isn't. You can skip a few dozen "romance" pages here and there and then it's really worth your while.

Thanks. Maybe I can get to it over the Holidays.

I found Becoming Steve Jobs by Schlender & Tetzeli to be a much more informative read than Isaacson's official biography, particularly on the intersection of Jobs/Next/Pixar/Apple.
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