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The standard charge should be $0.02 per comment.
Even at $.10 a comment, trolling would still be incredibly inexpensive compared to many other hobbies.
Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
The model of Reddit as a multistory building with a basement is flawed from the outset. It's more like a building in n-dimensional hyperspace. No matter what room you're in, the doors that lead to every other room, as well as to the street outside, are never more than a footstep away. The same is true of the Web as a whole, at least until we allow governments and other special interests to start nailing various doors…
A building in n-dimensional hyperspace where a large group of violent assholes are on the other side of ~50% of all doors.
Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even at $.10 a comment, trolling would still be incredibly inexpensive compared to many other hobbies.
It should however help eradicate industrial scale trolling by dedicated actors.
On the other hand, trolls and coordinated political campaigns tend to be a lot more willing to spend money to pursue their causes than people that just want to add a relevant anecdote or express their approval, so it might skew the balance of comments more towards trolling and brigading.
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I disagree, if people pay for the privilege of commenting, they will feel entitled and less likely to self-moderate. It would make more sense to grant commenting privileges to individuals who have engaged with the site previously and are in good standing. Much like the Product Hunt.
> if people pay for the privilege of commenting, they will feel entitled and less likely to self-moderate Not if getting banned means they have to buy a new account to post again.
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A building in n-dimensional hyperspace where a large group of violent assholes are on the other side of ~50% of all doors.
Who can't come through the door to the room you're in unless you invite them.
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#126I think there actually might be a market here for Reddit... Create a subreddit for a news site, and each new article on the news site automatically gets a new post on the subreddit. Embed the relevant post on the news site. Since "karma" is transitive across Reddit and across news sites, users are slightly less likely to troll. You could also do this with some sort of reputation system across websites (Disqus could a…
Amusingly, https://www.reddit.com/r/hackernews/
Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even at $.10 a comment, trolling would still be incredibly inexpensive compared to many other hobbies.
What if you added a downvote multiplier, so if you get 5 downvotes it becomes $.50? With a max neg of score of -10. And same for downvoter. And you get meta mods who watch these mods to try to keep things from wratcheting in a runaway manner.
You'll almost instantly get downvoted to at least -5, despite the verifiable truth of the statement.
It would make vote brigading really attractive as well. Imagine if /r/TheDonald users could have caused a financial impact to anyone just by downvoting their comments. Reddit would have been a nightmare.
Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
#128I think there actually might be a market here for Reddit... Create a subreddit for a news site, and each new article on the news site automatically gets a new post on the subreddit. Embed the relevant post on the news site. Since "karma" is transitive across Reddit and across news sites, users are slightly less likely to troll. You could also do this with some sort of reputation system across websites (Disqus could a…
Is anyone out there aware of a solution that currently exists (and is available to people like you and I?).
Reddit has made it easy to embed comments on a site since last year: https://redditblog.com/2015/03/23/announcing-embeddable-comm...
Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
#129I think if you're getting mostly garbage comments, it should give you pause for thought. Yes, the format of the internet doesn't encourage thoughtful, polite comments. But equally there might be a problem with what you're writing if you're attracting trolls. This is certainly true of Vice.
I think that assertion looks good on paper but isn't fair in practice. Other than communities that have significant friction to get in -- e.g. $5 for a Metafilter membership -- comments are going to fall prey to the dynamic that afflicts online reviews: people who are pissed are often more motivated to make it known, compared to those who are merely satisfied [0]. Whatever one might think of Vice overall, the model i…
Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
#130I think there actually might be a market here for Reddit... Create a subreddit for a news site, and each new article on the news site automatically gets a new post on the subreddit. Embed the relevant post on the news site. Since "karma" is transitive across Reddit and across news sites, users are slightly less likely to troll. You could also do this with some sort of reputation system across websites (Disqus could a…
While technically accurate, "slight less likely" isn't statistical significant when it comes to trolling.