I'm not trying to be contrarian here. The biggest issue with VICE is that it pretends to be alternative the same way Lady GaGa pretends to be alternative.
Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
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Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
#12I think if you're getting mostly garbage comments, it should give you pause for thought. Yes, the format of the internet doesn't encourage thoughtful, polite comments. But equally there might be a problem with what you're writing if you're attracting trolls. This is certainly true of Vice.
Whatever one might think of Vice overall, the model is that good journalism in general pisses people off. This attracts not only substantive critical comments, but trolls who want to deface the article. It takes real effort through moderation to create a constructive community, as I'm sure the folks who run HN can strongly attest to.
[0] https://www.quora.com/Is-there-negative-bias-in-online-revie...
Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Vice doesn't shy away from taking a position that might be controversial or even extreme. A lot of their content borders on editorial which is fine if that's what you're looking for, but it's also full of fodder for those who want to argue about things. Honestly the comment on most news sites are absolutely atrocious and there'd be little lost if they were shut off completely.
The comments on the New York Times seem to be high quality.
Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Vice doesn't shy away from taking a position that might be controversial or even extreme. A lot of their content borders on editorial which is fine if that's what you're looking for, but it's also full of fodder for those who want to argue about things. Honestly the comment on most news sites are absolutely atrocious and there'd be little lost if they were shut off completely.
The comments on the New York Times seem to be high quality.
Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Vice doesn't shy away from taking a position that might be controversial or even extreme. A lot of their content borders on editorial which is fine if that's what you're looking for, but it's also full of fodder for those who want to argue about things. Honestly the comment on most news sites are absolutely atrocious and there'd be little lost if they were shut off completely.
The comments on the New York Times seem to be high quality.
(a comically high amount of resources, IMHO; a good part of what their human editors do could be triaged through automated systems)
Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
#16A notable removal of a comments section was NPR's shutdown right around the time of the Democratic National Convention. The comments were overwhelmingly anti-Hillary, but they were for the most part civil. It looked really bad because these were progressives and liberals going after her rather than rabid right-wingers. Since NPR clearly had a pro-Hillary agenda, the comments section had to go.
Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
#17I think if you're getting mostly garbage comments, it should give you pause for thought. Yes, the format of the internet doesn't encourage thoughtful, polite comments. But equally there might be a problem with what you're writing if you're attracting trolls. This is certainly true of Vice.
Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
#18I think if you're getting mostly garbage comments, it should give you pause for thought. Yes, the format of the internet doesn't encourage thoughtful, polite comments. But equally there might be a problem with what you're writing if you're attracting trolls. This is certainly true of Vice.
Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Vice doesn't shy away from taking a position that might be controversial or even extreme. A lot of their content borders on editorial which is fine if that's what you're looking for, but it's also full of fodder for those who want to argue about things. Honestly the comment on most news sites are absolutely atrocious and there'd be little lost if they were shut off completely.
The comments on the New York Times seem to be high quality.
http://www.nytimes.com/content/help/site/usercontent/usercon...
Re: Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
#20I think if you're getting mostly garbage comments, it should give you pause for thought. Yes, the format of the internet doesn't encourage thoughtful, polite comments. But equally there might be a problem with what you're writing if you're attracting trolls. This is certainly true of Vice.
But equally there might be a problem with what you're writing if you're attracting trolls. I very much disagree with that. Let's just take the CBC as an example. It's an excellent news organization that writes top notch journalism. And for any topic even remotely controversial (e.g., anything related to the indigenous population in Canada), they've had to disable the comment section because it's such a godawful cessp…