Been an Apple customer for the last 20+ years. Never have been so happy as a PRO user. (Really don't get all the „beginning of the end“ blabla)
How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists
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Re: How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
I honestly doubt it would cost $3000 to replace your 5 year old macbook.
The cheapest I can get into a 15" MBP with a terabyte of storage (and I need a terabyte) is $2999.
So the reason the replacement is so expensive is because you've coupled yourself to a particular OS and so your replacing a macbook with another macbook. Even though there being other cheaper and more powerful options.
Re: How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry that's just not possible. There are gamer targeted systems that are better specs than anything apple ever made (even after market upgrades) in the sun $2k range.
The problem is, they don't run macOS. And if your whole work-environment is centered around macOS, it is not an easy choice to leave that behind, and consequently, hardware upgrades don't come cheap.
Sure but that's a different point.
Re: How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists
#74This is where the Hackintosh market has thrived. For desktop users, size of the machine is not nearly as important as raw. computational. power. The iMac was good in its time but that time was half a decade ago. The Mac Pro was supposed to be the revolution for Mac desktops, but they neglected it for too long. And since you can't upgrade it yourself that shiny new Mac depreciates exponentially and even more so when s…
A maxed out current iMac is a pretty competitive workstation machine imo. Not especially cheap, but not prohibitive for a company. The top of the line is currently a 4.0 GHz quad-core i7 w/ 32 GB RAM (27" model w/ the memory and CPU upgrades). I have that on my desk at work and am quite happy with it.
Re: How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists
#75Admittedly, for my needs the 15" models are not great. Writing and some computer programming/big data. I prefer longer battery life and a lighter/smaller 15" unit. The new unit claims to have about 2 hours more battery life than the 2015 model (see tables of battery life near end) [1].
Also important to me is nearby Apple stores to get my Mac problems looked into if I need it.
Could somebody please be specific as to what the new 15" rMBP is not doing for them?
[1] http://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-Late-2016-...
Re: How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists
#76Maybe the time is right for SGI to get back into making workstations again now that Apple doesn't seem to care as much as before.
Why? Just buy something from newegg and call it "workstation." Apple has two things going for them: top notch physical quality laptops and macOs. That's really it. Who cares how shiny a desktop workstation is... ideally you don't even see it. the only reason to buy a desktop from Apple is macOs. And if that doesn't matter to you, why by from apple at all? And for that matter why buy a desktop from anyone when you can…
There are more useful attributes to a well-made desktop system than "shiny".
"Quiet" is a big one.
Re: How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists
#77My main computer is a five year old 17" MBP. I've upgraded it to the max and done repairs to maintain it. I need the computational power - I use it for programming, photo editing at scale, and recording/mixing music. It would cost me $3000 to replace it with a computer that is not significantly more powerful, has a smaller screen and less I/O functionality, and would be incompatible with my audio interface unless I d…
>My main computer is a five year old 17" MBP. I've upgraded it to the max and done repairs to maintain it. I need the computational power - I use it for programming, photo editing at scale, and recording/mixing music. It would cost me $3000 to replace it with a computer that is not significantly more powerful
Compared to a five year old 17"? More like double the power. And unbelievably faster SSD (even if you have an aftermarket SSD on your 17", it will be nowhere near as fast as the ones in current MPBr unless you pay top dollar).
>has a smaller screen
Smaller but hi-dpi, and with far greater color accuracy and brightness. Also, you can hook up an external monitor, apparently lugging 17" beasts around wasn't popular enough to carry the models forward.
>and less I/O functionality
Actually way way more. Less varied ports (basically 2 types: 4 USB-C and 1 headphone), but way way more I/O power and connectivity.
>and would be incompatible with my audio interface unless I daisy-chain multiple adapters to get Firewire.
Or just get a USB-C to Firewire adapter of hub. Daisy chain multiple adapters? Huh?
Re: How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists
#78Well I've migrated back to Windows for my latest computer, but part of that was also because I already had a reasonably functioning mac ( although starting to stumble) and ubuntu installation. I plan on buying another mac later next year - however that is because my wife is a mac loyalist. to say that losing developers is losing mac loyalists is pretty weird actually, traditionally developers have not been the core m…
look at all of the official android SDK developers who work at Google. it's Macintosh all the way down.
Re: How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is, they don't run macOS. And if your whole work-environment is centered around macOS, it is not an easy choice to leave that behind, and consequently, hardware upgrades don't come cheap.
Sure but that's a different point.
No, if he wants to be a replacement, one has to assume he wants to be compatible and keep using the applications he currently uses. Any non-Mac system might be an "alternative" but not a "replacement".
Re: How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
I also have the same type of maxed-out 2011 17" MacBook Pro. The replacement for that I am looking at costs $3500-$4200.
Sorry that's just not possible. There are gamer targeted systems that are better specs than anything apple ever made (even after market upgrades) in the sun $2k range.
>There are gamer targeted systems that are better specs than anything apple ever made
Which is irrelevant. I don't a "gamer system". I want thin, light, excellent construction, and good battery life, great trackpad, and a good enough CPU/GPU to achieve all that.
Comparable Mac and PC systems for that cost $2000 and way up...