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Re: New XPS 15 Laptop

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Post by lmm »

bronz wrote: post #139

i feel like a new trend is emerging with these nice, 15 inch non-apple laptops. i say non-apple because they are attracting the pro crowd that used to buy apple exclusively. my personal fantasy is a laptop that isnt shy about being thick, affording it a huge battery, tons of ports, OLED screen and solid state trackpad like the macbook. with very reliable linux drivers for all the hardware. a very utilitarian machine.

I used to think that was what I wanted. But I think at this point a thin laptop can be good enough, and being able to get away from having a dev laptop and a travel netbook is a huge win. Moving all the ports onto a dock - provided it's a first-party fully-supported dock - is also a win, since it enables me to leave everything plugged in at home and take my computer travelling without having to unplug and replug everything.

/huge Surface Book fan

Re: New XPS 15 Laptop

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Post by slantyyz »

ido wrote: post #41
sliken wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't that be the XPS13?

The highest end i7 xps13 actually has surprisingly good graphics performance despite the intel integrated gpu (been using one the moment the 2016 version became available).

It might be good, but it doesn't even remotely compare to the Nvidia GTX 1060 in the VR capable 13R3. Although battery life suffers immensely because of it.

Re: New XPS 15 Laptop

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Post by webaholic »

creshal wrote: post #161
StevePerkins wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Feel free to provide some recommended examples instead of just being snarky.

Dell's XPS series has been around since 2013, they just didn't make it to HN. Lenovo also had more compact-ish 15" models with the T540p and later the T550/T560. Not sure about HP's Envy series, I'm not following them too closely.

what? I have a 2008 dell xps. XPS is Dell's premium laptop line that has been around since forever now.

Re: New XPS 15 Laptop

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Post by mazatta »

mSparks wrote: post #127
reitanqild wrote: post #90

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For me that always came across as a sane choice for single user developer/power user machines. Also IIRC it is only the very first user that has this privilege by default. For extra users I think you'll have to explicitly enable it when you create the account (or at a later stage.)

i barely trust my own programs to have access to the root account, why should any old script be able to access the entire machine in 6 letters? "you should never run anything as root" yet on ubuntu everything as good as runs as root by default. even windows ussually has a seperate password to create user accounts, but with ubuntu make the mistake of leaving your machine unlocked and unattended and any little script k…

No operating system can protect your machine if it is left unlocked - even allowing physical access makes you vulnerable. A worthy concern, but not in itself an "Ubuntu problem".

Re: New XPS 15 Laptop

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Post by bronz »

slantyyz wrote: post #172
bronz wrote: post #139

i feel like a new trend is emerging with these nice, 15 inch non-apple laptops. i say non-apple because they are attracting the pro crowd that used to buy apple exclusively. my personal fantasy is a laptop that isnt shy about being thick, affording it a huge battery, tons of ports, OLED screen and solid state trackpad like the macbook. with very reliable linux drivers for all the hardware. a very utilitarian machine.

I've been planning for my next laptop purchase next year, and for some reason, I can't pull the Alienware 13R3 off the top of my short list. It's big (for a 13"), heavy, ugly and adorned with hideous gamer bling (WHY, WHY, WHY??), but it also has all the ports and features (discrete trackpad buttons!) I want in my work machine. Right now, it's basically between the new XPS 15 and the 13R3 (or R4 if it's out by the ti…

the gamer bling thing is so funny. why does nobody in the laptop business understand that people are buying those laptops despite the bling, not because of it? every ad that i see for a gaming laptop emphasizes the competitive advantages that these laptops offer, letting "gamers" "dominate" and so on. how could they be so disconnected that they don't realize that what everyone wants is to enjoy their crispy, high definition graphics on a sleek master race machine? what the world needs is a merging of gaming laptops with xps-like pro machines. utilitarian, powerful, well made and visually inconspicuous.

Re: New XPS 15 Laptop

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Post by projectramo »

meritt wrote: post #173
projectramo wrote: post #153

How does one tell which XPS 15 one is ordering? Suppose you order one through Amazon, other than doing a feature by feature comparison, can you tell it is the "latest" one?

Look at the specific model number. 9560 is the latest XPS 15" (and 9360 is the latest XPS 13", from Oct 2016)

Thanks. I was looking for the model number but could not find it on the page.

Re: New XPS 15 Laptop

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Post by slantyyz »

bronz wrote: post #185
slantyyz wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been planning for my next laptop purchase next year, and for some reason, I can't pull the Alienware 13R3 off the top of my short list. It's big (for a 13"), heavy, ugly and adorned with hideous gamer bling (WHY, WHY, WHY??), but it also has all the ports and features (discrete trackpad buttons!) I want in my work machine. Right now, it's basically between the new XPS 15 and the 13R3 (or R4 if it's out by the ti…

the gamer bling thing is so funny. why does nobody in the laptop business understand that people are buying those laptops despite the bling, not because of it? every ad that i see for a gaming laptop emphasizes the competitive advantages that these laptops offer, letting "gamers" "dominate" and so on. how could they be so disconnected that they don't realize that what everyone wants is to enjoy their crispy, high def…

In fairness, I think ASUS gets it - they make non gamer versions of their thin gamer machines. My main problem with ASUS - they make nice machines - is that for a work machine, I want to buy a decent extended warranty where I know I'll get OK service, so that narrows it down to the bigger vendors like Dell, Lenovo, HP, etc.

Re: New XPS 15 Laptop

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Post by chx »

andlarry wrote: post #158

Folks considering this should also check out the HP ZBook Studio G3. It has Quadro M1000M 4GB graphics, 32 GB of ECC RAM, quad core, Linux certified by HP, 4k screen, can handle two external 4k monitors and drive the panel at about 4.5 pounds.

Sniff, that's a Maxwell chip not Pascal. But it came out early 2016 so perhaps early 2017 we will see a G4 with Kaby Lake and Pascal quad core. Would be nice.

Re: New XPS 15 Laptop

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Post by StavrosK »

thearn4 wrote: post #169
StavrosK wrote: post #51

Speaking of laptops, what would you recommend to someone running Ubuntu? My 2013 MacBook Air is feeling it, with its non-upgradable 4 GB RAM. A discrete graphics card so I could play DotA2 once in a while would be nice, even if it's at medium graphics quality.

For what it's worth: I've been doing gaming on my 2012 MBA using Steam's in-home streaming from my Desktop. It works really well for gaming casually on the couch, though it only works on my home LAN.

I have a Steam Link too, so I use streaming, but it's not great for twitch games like DotA and Rocket League :/

Re: New XPS 15 Laptop

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Post by slantyyz »

webaholic wrote: post #183
creshal wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dell's XPS series has been around since 2013, they just didn't make it to HN. Lenovo also had more compact-ish 15" models with the T540p and later the T550/T560. Not sure about HP's Envy series, I'm not following them too closely.

what? I have a 2008 dell xps. XPS is Dell's premium laptop line that has been around since forever now.

I found that after Dell went private, their XPS'es (and other products, for that matter) all of a sudden became machines I'd actually consider buying.
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