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Re: Ask HN: How is the status of remote working in Europe?

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Post by ddorian43 »

andyy wrote: post #10
mrcold wrote: post #3

In Europe software companies are more like factories. You punch in, work like a slave all day, then punch out. The socialist mindset created retarded managers. So anything deviating from the standard factory setup is seen as depravity. Europeans don't understand technology. For them software development is like manual labor. Get some monkeys, throw them some peanuts and use a whip to make them do stuff. Overall, remo…

That's weird thing to say, I guess no replies from guys in UK (London & rest of the country). It's similar for Netherlands and I know (from my experience) in Germany (Berlin). 'In Europe software companies are more like factories. You punch in, work like a slave all day, then punch out.' > again not sure which countries you speak about (ukraine or romania lol?), maybe it's like that in some, but some have very relaxe…

What benefits does the EU company give you more beside more free days compared to US ?

Re: Ask HN: How is the status of remote working in Europe?

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Post by andyy »

ddorian43 wrote: post #11
andyy wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's weird thing to say, I guess no replies from guys in UK (London & rest of the country). It's similar for Netherlands and I know (from my experience) in Germany (Berlin). 'In Europe software companies are more like factories. You punch in, work like a slave all day, then punch out.' > again not sure which countries you speak about (ukraine or romania lol?), maybe it's like that in some, but some have very relaxe…

What benefits does the EU company give you more beside more free days compared to US ?

I'll just mention one thing, maybe that's not important for you - US maternity law, come on... it's a joke ;) all of this stuff is way in favour in most countries of Europe.

btw. I like my free days, I like a lot the extra ones (not the ones that companies are obligated to) if you work for good company.

time is precious so a lot of companies are very flexible, in here it's nothing new & nothing uncommon to do 4 days instead 5 etc. or change any day with any weekend day if you please.

Re: Ask HN: How is the status of remote working in Europe?

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Post by BjoernKW »

mrcold wrote: post #3

In Europe software companies are more like factories. You punch in, work like a slave all day, then punch out. The socialist mindset created retarded managers. So anything deviating from the standard factory setup is seen as depravity. Europeans don't understand technology. For them software development is like manual labor. Get some monkeys, throw them some peanuts and use a whip to make them do stuff. Overall, remo…

Are you talking from experience or just out of your arse? I know plenty of EU software companies and while there is certainly some variation none of them is like the cliché you're painting.

It's like saying every US software company is like 70s / 80s era IBM (which used to be pretty much like what you're describing).

Re: Ask HN: How is the status of remote working in Europe?

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Post by a-saleh »

(Czech republic) - in my peer-group, fully remote work is rare, but not unheard-off (for past two years I have worked with colleague who was fully remote, even though he lives in the same country, and we are about to hire another one. Both of them were hired as senior engineers)

What is really common, is reasonably generous attitude towards working from home. Few of my colleagues have arrangement with my manager that they can work from home indefinitely and basically come to office only when they feel like it, because of ~1h long commute from one part of the city to the other. Company policy is 1xWFH/week.

Re: Ask HN: How is the status of remote working in Europe?

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Post by poushkar »

andyy wrote: post #10
mrcold wrote: post #3

In Europe software companies are more like factories. You punch in, work like a slave all day, then punch out. The socialist mindset created retarded managers. So anything deviating from the standard factory setup is seen as depravity. Europeans don't understand technology. For them software development is like manual labor. Get some monkeys, throw them some peanuts and use a whip to make them do stuff. Overall, remo…

That's weird thing to say, I guess no replies from guys in UK (London & rest of the country). It's similar for Netherlands and I know (from my experience) in Germany (Berlin). 'In Europe software companies are more like factories. You punch in, work like a slave all day, then punch out.' > again not sure which countries you speak about (ukraine or romania lol?), maybe it's like that in some, but some have very relaxe…

'ukraine or romania lol?' - it's interesting to see that you typed Ukraine and Romania in lowercase while others (Spain, Netherlands, US) in uppercase, but let's skip it for now.

I really wonder what your assumptions about working environments in Ukraine and Romania are based on? Have you ever worked in any of the countries? Do you feel like people there are somehow worse than people in the UK? Or that Ukrainian/Romanian developers are more "slaves" than you?

Thanks

Re: Ask HN: How is the status of remote working in Europe?

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Post by Zelmor »

Linux software tester reporting in from Eastern EU. I am fully remote and would not have it any other way. My client company (I'm a subcontractor) is located in the same county so it's not like I work overboard. This is pretty standard for some companies, and completely alien to others. Look for the former ones and ask during interviews.

Re: Ask HN: How is the status of remote working in Europe?

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Post by jimmywanger »

pvaldes wrote: post #7
mrcold wrote: post #3

In Europe software companies are more like factories. You punch in, work like a slave all day, then punch out. The socialist mindset created retarded managers. So anything deviating from the standard factory setup is seen as depravity. Europeans don't understand technology. For them software development is like manual labor. Get some monkeys, throw them some peanuts and use a whip to make them do stuff. Overall, remo…

> Europeans work like a slave all day Except in holidays > The socialist mindset created retarded managers Not all the retarded managers are socialists, and not all managers are retarded. Do you have free universal medical care for all citizens yet? > Europeans don't understand technology Not a single european country in the list of the five most polluting countries in the planet. Congratulations to USA for ranking a…

> Not a single european country in the list of the five most polluting countries in the planet.

Congratulations for not understanding the concept of "per capita".

Re: Ask HN: How is the status of remote working in Europe?

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Post by ionised »

mrcold wrote: post #3

In Europe software companies are more like factories. You punch in, work like a slave all day, then punch out. The socialist mindset created retarded managers. So anything deviating from the standard factory setup is seen as depravity. Europeans don't understand technology. For them software development is like manual labor. Get some monkeys, throw them some peanuts and use a whip to make them do stuff. Overall, remo…

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you just have a terrible personal experience with shitty jobs.

My current (UK) company is great to work for.

Re: Ask HN: How is the status of remote working in Europe?

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Post by ionised »

id122015 wrote: post #6
mrcold wrote: post #3

In Europe software companies are more like factories. You punch in, work like a slave all day, then punch out. The socialist mindset created retarded managers. So anything deviating from the standard factory setup is seen as depravity. Europeans don't understand technology. For them software development is like manual labor. Get some monkeys, throw them some peanuts and use a whip to make them do stuff. Overall, remo…

If I was born in Europe, who should I work for ? Should I move to UK, US, Australia ?

Iceland
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