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Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by wildmusings »

hguant wrote: post #439
charlesism wrote: post #429

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My metaphor is leaking! My point is that I would be quite happy to buy a $3000 machine if it were stelar quality, and I could rely on it for the next five years. Some people will always pay top dollar for pro gear. If you use and rely on a piece of equipment enough, it's worth it.

> My point is that I would be quite happy to buy a $3000 machine if it were stelar quality, and I could rely on it for the next five years. Well if that's what you're into... http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-blade-pro One downside is that the battery life is crap (5 hours or so)...and the base price is $3600.

Hahaha, that thing looks amazing. Mechanical keyboard on a laptop!? 17" 4k display! Someone built my dream laptop then added $2000 to the price ;)

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by tedmiston »

sangnoir wrote: post #262
jpatokal wrote: post #118

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This was a private comm internal to Apple, not a public communication. Also, in this situation, denial is the lesser of two evils. Because if there are rumors that "X is going to be killed", and you don't squash them, that's even more suspicious.

> This was a private comm internal to Apple, not a public communication PR departments (and governments) concoct and intentionally "leak" internal docs to the press all the time as a back-channel. This particular Apple missive reads like a press release[1]. I recently read an interesting article on how governments benefit from unsanctioned leaks as they provide cover for planned leaks. The same dynamic applies to com…

I believe that type of language is normal for its internal PR.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by slantyyz »

scholia wrote: post #372
jpkeisala wrote: post #158

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Same here, I thought I would never touch it and almost looked option without it. Glad I bought touchscreen.

Ditto. Last year, I made the mistake of buying a non-touch laptop thinking I didn't care that much. Had to take it back to the shop and swap it for a touch-screen machine....

If you want touch on your laptop and you're not ready to upgrade yet, you should check out the AirBar. You do need to buy the right bar for your screen size though. It's obviously not as good as a real touch screen, but it seems like a decent substitute until you can get one.

Product Site: http://www.air.bar/

Video Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR5r1EfvheI

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by vinay427 »

Gracana wrote: post #465
pronik wrote: post #427

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ThinkPads are well-designed and do not feel cheap. There are just two things they are not: extra-thin and shiny.

I disagree. They used to be heavy duty and well designed, now they just look heavy duty (and well designed if you squint). The best example of the slide downhill is their heavy-duty metal hinge... covers. Inside it's the same hinge everything else has. At my last job we had a recent thinkpad of some sort in the shop, and the media keys rattled around under their wavy bezel, and the bottom of the LCD bezel could be fl…

Perhaps the ThinkPad you're talking about isn't one of the flagship series (X, T, W mostly). There are a variety of other models Lenovo brands as ThinkPads that are build to look similar to these ThinkPads.

I can add, though, that the hinge in my T450s is by no means as cheap and flexible as those in a rMBP or any slew of other Windows laptops. I can open it to 180 degrees or anywhere in-between and it stays there even while I shake the laptop (far better than the rMBP I had for work and previous laptops I've owned). The outer casing of my (AFAIK carbon fiber/fiberglass) T450s also feels firmer and stronger than that of a rMBP where the metal outer shell flexes, probably due to the lack of a solid skeleton support system inside. These little things just inspire confidence in me that few other products can, personally.

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Post by Raphmedia »

pwython wrote: post #443
deanCommie wrote: post #418

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I used to think every one of my friends with a MBP was a fisher price-loving brainless slave to Steve Jobs. Then I actually had to use one for work. I'll never go back. It's the little things that are not so little: 1) The wake speed 2) The battery life 3) The overall comfort and feel of the keys and the trackpad compared to ANYTHING I've ever used before from Lenovo or Dell. I can live in Mac mode and build almost a…

> And if I need to do anything for Windows, I just use Boot Camp. In my head I imagine 90% of Mac users that use Boot Camp just need it to play PC games. :) Then again, I suppose there's still really specific obscure software out there that is Windows only (or Win/IIS devs that prefer Mac hardware). Which reminds me, I wonder if I'll ever see 3ds Max on MacOS.

You wouldn't game on a laptop anyway and you should build your own tower PC for anything serious (which limits you from using OSX).

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Post by zeveb »

duck2 wrote: post #458
lobster_johnson wrote: post #141

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I'm also considering a switch, but Windows drives me up the wall whenever I touch it. macOS has been getting uglier and more awkward to use the last few years, but Windows is still the king of ugly. So I've been considering Linux as my first option. I fired up a few VMs and dipped my toes in various Linux desktop environments: Elementary, Fedora 25, and Ubuntu (Unity) so far. These are all GNOME 3 variants. And... oh…

I have surfed through distros, desktop environments and window managers for nearly a year. My equillibrium point is suckless.org's dwm[0] with all defaults except using Terminus as font and Super(windows) instead of Alt key. ~6 months, no irritation, no configuration change. Tiling window managers which have extensive configuration options are useful as tinkering material, but not actual working environments. If you…

I've ended up in a very similar position: stumpwm, st, Adobe Source Code Pro & Super.

For my particular style, being able to extend the WM (not customise endlessly: actually extend) is pretty awesome, but I understand that not everyone's into that.

After getting everything set up the way I like it, I'll never switch.

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Post by notheguyouthink »

nothis wrote: post #424
wildmusings wrote: post #400

Personally, luxury laptop lines don't make sense for me at this point. There was a time when it was the only way to get decent hardware, but those days are long gone. Four years ago I spilled water on my 2009 17" MBP (RIP) and Apple wanted $1200 for the repair. Instead, I spent ~$1300, including three-year accident-protection insurance where they show up at your house THE NEXT DAY, on a Thinkpad T530 and I couldn't b…

So isn't $1500 still within the "luxury" category? You can get a perfectly fine laptop for $500. You mention 1080p. I believe the high-res displays (think 4k-ish/Retina) are still super expensive, even for non-Apple machines and they make a huge difference for me. For professionals working with print, it's an absolute bliss to "not see pixels" anymore and I generally love it for just reading super crisp text. Then th…

> For professionals working with print, it's an absolute bliss to "not see pixels" anymore and I generally love it for just reading super crisp text.

Yea, i do nothing with graphics/print but the crisp text is very important to me. All day in the Terminal screen, the crisp letters really help reduce eye fatigue, which is at a premium these days.

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Post by notheguyouthink »

rasjani wrote: post #453
pronik wrote: post #427

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ThinkPads are well-designed and do not feel cheap. There are just two things they are not: extra-thin and shiny.

Trackpads (buttons) on thinkpads are not well designed and I doubt anyones mental health who says otherwise.

Unfortunately the new Macbook Pro Ret is terribly designed, imo.

The trackpad may be good quality, but it is massive. Seriously, my hands naturally rest on the pad while i type, which causes all sorts of weird behavior because my palms are mashing all over the "mouse". Furthermore, Apple reduces the "action" of the keys and trackpad press to near zero, what!? The new non-button-bottons of the Macbook Pro Retina are annoying as hell.

I'm frustrated because i don't want to deal with bad Linux laptop drivers, so i want to buy another Macbook Pro Ret, but the damn thing is just crap (to me personally). I'm very frustrated at the UX of that new book.

And lets not even talk about removing the magnetic charge port for a grand total of two usb c ports. I have no clue what Apple is doing these days.

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Post by utexaspunk »

d3ckard wrote: post #333
m12k wrote: post #316

It's actually kind of amazing to see the discourse shift against Apple and the new MacBook Pro to the point where it seems almost self-reinforcing. Like someone turned the reality distortion field on backwards or something. I've been wanting a mac laptop the size and weight of a MacBook Air 13" but with a retina display for years, and the ability to connect usb, power and external display with just a single cable is…

I do not agree. It is not about magic, it's about neglecting the user group that made them rich in the first place. Apple actually stopped making pro hardware. They're unpredictable when it comes to upgrades(15 Retina ethernal Haswell, 2013 Mac Pro, even iMacs), they do not seem to have an idea how the platform should evolve and they're obsessed with thinness, while in the pro market performance and battery life are…

I have to say Microsoft really nailed it with the Surface Studio (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-stud...). It's what Apple would have made already if they were "committed to the desktop" and wanted to stay true to their roots as the computer for creative work. They out-Appled Apple. Including the price, unfortunately.

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Post by [deleted] »

pronik wrote: post #427
mej10 wrote: post #408

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Some people literally get joy out of using things that are well designed and don't feel cheap. When it is a device you are going to use constantly for work and other things then it becomes very easy to justify buying a "luxury" laptop. I used the same iMac for 5 years (only added an SSD) and have used the same MBP for 4 years and it still has a lot of life left.

ThinkPads are well-designed and do not feel cheap. There are just two things they are not: extra-thin and shiny.

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