Is this a sponsored article by GM? I'm honestly curious.
GM has paid off the auto media for nearly a century now, you would be amiss not to at least suspect it.
The Chevy Bolt Is the Ugly Car of the Near Future
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#192The Bolt is not Ugly; it's not as good looking as a Model S, but it looks very good for a car in it's class
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#193I don't understand car aesthetics. With vintage cars, or luxury or sports cars, the aesthetics make sense, but amongst reliable, affordable automobiles, I can't tell what makes one nice and another ugly. They all just look like generic plastic bubbles to me, they're all made from the same materials, they were all stamped out in a factory. We may as well be discussing the aesthetics of screwdrivers or milk cartons.
Still, you get guys who haven't bought a new shirt in 5 years, their homes are filled with mismatched Ikea junk, they don't give a fuck about how anything looks until you bring up cars, and suddenly passions are inflamed.
What's worse, is that the fixation is all about the car itself, when in reality they come bundled with all sorts if infrastructure that's almost exclusively hideous. Nobody looks at a gas station, a parking lot, or a freeway interchange and says 'my, what a beautiful sight, I want to build my home right here so my livingroom window can overlook this fabulous vista'. Block that shit out and fixate on the car itself.
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
have you factored in maintenance and environmental cost?
Most pollutants actually come from brake pads, so lack of ice will only knock total emissions down 30ish precent. But everyone likes to think its only the engine. Also consider the impact of mining copper and lithium. Its still in favor of conventional cars by a wide, but closing, margin.
> Most pollutants actually come from brake pads
It's the first time I'm hearing about that, the good news is that with electric cars and regenerative breaking you barely use the mechanical break.
Also, I wouldn't qualify it as being "Most". Most of the particles yes, but not most of the green-house gas, which could reach a theoretical 0 if the production of energy is managed correctly.
I guess it all depends on everyone's definition of "pollution"
I found this paper about brake pads and their impact on micro particles: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4315878/
Re: The Chevy Bolt Is the Ugly Car of the Near Future
#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
have you factored in maintenance and environmental cost?
Most pollutants actually come from brake pads, so lack of ice will only knock total emissions down 30ish precent. But everyone likes to think its only the engine. Also consider the impact of mining copper and lithium. Its still in favor of conventional cars by a wide, but closing, margin.
> Most pollutants actually come from brake pads, so lack of ice will only knock total emissions down 30ish precent
For what it's worth, electric cars use heavy regenerative breaking. If driven properly, the brake pads on an electric car will almost never get used, eliminating the majority of those emissions too.
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#196Tesla proved that eco-minded cars didn't need to be ugly, yet ALL other manufacturers continue to produce only ugly cars (they don't get points for bootstrapping hybrid models of existing cars). I am amazed none of the other purveyors of electric cars have managed to figure this out. Even the BMW offering ranks high on the "God what the hell" scale in terms of its design. The Prius started this stupid trend of cars f…
> Tesla proved that eco-minded cars didn't need to be ugly, yet ALL other manufacturers continue to produce only ugly cars (they don't get points for bootstrapping hybrid models of existing cars).
Part of the reason is that Tesla's are electric-only. You know it's electric just from the badge. For other manufacturers you would actually need know which specific models are electric. Because of the Prius (which was designed for aerodynamics over styling in its iconic second generation) people have been taught that "eco" cars are "ugly" (at least compared to "normal" gas cars) so the other manufacturers play off that association and make their "eco" cars "ugly" to call attention to their eco-friendliness, reinforcing the association.
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#197The Bolt is not Ugly; it's not as good looking as a Model S, but it looks very good for a car in it's class
I like it!
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#198Nissan owners do not kick themselves, silently or otherwise, for not buying Chevy. Doesn't happen, even in those hypothetical circumstances in which they objectively should.
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#199I think it looks fine. You Americans have a weird dislike of hatchbacks. To European eyes, it just looks very normal. Good luck to GM but I suspect their dealerships won't bother trying to sell many of these.
My fellow countrymen (and women) are all fools! Fools, I tell you! I love my fifteen year old Subaru Impreza hatchback! If I could get a plug in hybrid version of it I'd hand over my money this minute.
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#200I don't understand car aesthetics. With vintage cars, or luxury or sports cars, the aesthetics make sense, but amongst reliable, affordable automobiles, I can't tell what makes one nice and another ugly. They all just look like generic plastic bubbles to me, they're all made from the same materials, they were all stamped out in a factory. We may as well be discussing the aesthetics of screwdrivers or milk cartons. St…
Screwdrivers and milk cartons are often look nice, while most modern cars are ugly. Moreover, they have unpleasant aggressive look (and all are the same). Maybe it's something related to marketing.
It's not because of aerodynamics. Trains are designed with aerodynamics and look fantastic. Buses are plain rectangular but still work. There's something unhealthy in car aesthetics.