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Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by e40 »

Ensorceled wrote: post #381
colomon wrote: post #369

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It feels to me like you are putting this backwards. I've been using the MBP as my main software development platform for eight years now. My current machine is a maxed out mid 2014 15" MBPr. What does the new MBP offer me over that? 1) Very slightly faster. (2.9 vs 2.8) 2) 2 TB SSD instead of 1 TB. 3) Ability to charge and drive monitor over single cable. But what is the price? 1) $4,199 -- nearly $1000 more expensiv…

I plan to map caps lock to ESC (currently it's mapped to the command key)

For people with ESC in muscle memory, that's a non starter.

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Post by abrowne »

somecallitblues wrote: post #290
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> I tried Ubuntu and couldn't get over the ugly font and not being able copy paste from anything to anything else Please elaborate. I mean... Universal copy paste has just been working the last 20 years... Unless I'm missing something basic?

I remember that ctrl+c and ctrl+v didn't work across applications. I think Terminal was one of them. Couldn't copy and paste into it. Out of the box anyway.

In MATE Terminal, and I think GNOME Terminal, you can chance the keybindings to remove the shift — and if you do this, you can send ^C with shift-control-c.

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Post by Lio »

pjmlp wrote: post #354
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Eventually they might. Or at least if they'll be relevant at that time.

No need when Unreal, Unity, Crytek and every other game engine that matters already support Metal.

I've not heard of any games or VR software released to the market that use Metal yet. I've heard it mentioned about projects still in development but so far that's all.

Do you have any examples of things using it?

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Post by matwood »

Lio wrote: post #393
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$400 for dongles? Got a breakdown on that?

Not the original poster but I'll have a go... 1. OWC Thunderbolt 3 dock so I can connect my existing monitor and wired network (not yet available): $279. 2. Replacement for my USB-A Superdrive: $39.99 3. Thunderbolt 3 hdmi media kit for presentations: $49 4. USB-C SD card reader: $29 5. USB-C to Lightning cable: $20 6. USB-C to USB-A dongle so I can connect my ANT+ dongle: $9 7. Power supply extension cable (you don'…

Just a note. If you get the TB 3 dock most of the other dongles are redundant unless you need the functionality on the go.

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Post by tdkl »

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I love Safari. The battery life is fantastic and the experience is fantastic.

I find "experience" an odd word here. My browser is a tool, not a theme park or spa day. I want it to do work for me, not delight me. Perhaps I am misunderstanding "experience"? An experience would be having a track day at Silverstone, not opening Safari.

Everything is an experience with Apple customers. Even opening their wallets wider every year.

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wildmusings wrote: post #400

Personally, luxury laptop lines don't make sense for me at this point. There was a time when it was the only way to get decent hardware, but those days are long gone. Four years ago I spilled water on my 2009 17" MBP (RIP) and Apple wanted $1200 for the repair. Instead, I spent ~$1300, including three-year accident-protection insurance where they show up at your house THE NEXT DAY, on a Thinkpad T530 and I couldn't b…

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Post by wwweston »

FussyZeus wrote: post #111
enjo wrote: post #17

The latest rev pushed me to a PC for the first time in like 15 years. It's partly because I didn't love the new Macbook Pro, but also cause hey..change is fun sometimes. I'm very happy with my new Surface Book. I never thought I'd like the touchscreen as much as I do. I LOVE being able to go to tablet mode for calls and stuff where I sort of want to just wander around. The pen has completely changed how I do flow-cha…

Our company is sticking with our current stockpile of 2012-2014 Macbooks. They have a lot of life left in them anyway, but when it comes to an office, having to reinvest in new, HUGE displays, new cabling, new laptops? Apple needs to come up with something more compelling than a stupid bar. And agree, at home, Windows 10's unix capabilities are amazing. Apple needs to dedicate some real resources to the Mac line and…

I'm still sticking with the 2012 pre-retina because it's apparently the last MBP you can get if you don't want the damn glossy screen, which somehow is standard even though it makes the problem of reflected lighting/glare worse.

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Post by mej10 »

wildmusings wrote: post #400

Personally, luxury laptop lines don't make sense for me at this point. There was a time when it was the only way to get decent hardware, but those days are long gone. Four years ago I spilled water on my 2009 17" MBP (RIP) and Apple wanted $1200 for the repair. Instead, I spent ~$1300, including three-year accident-protection insurance where they show up at your house THE NEXT DAY, on a Thinkpad T530 and I couldn't b…

Some people literally get joy out of using things that are well designed and don't feel cheap. When it is a device you are going to use constantly for work and other things then it becomes very easy to justify buying a "luxury" laptop. I used the same iMac for 5 years (only added an SSD) and have used the same MBP for 4 years and it still has a lot of life left.

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Post by adamlett »

scholia wrote: post #374
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It was not the pro users who made Apple rich. It was the consumers buying iPods, and later iPhones. Pro users are at the same time extremely demanding and extremely conservative. Apple has never done much to cater to that market, and the fact that they have so many pro users these days is a happy accident which has more to do with how awful these people used to be treated when they were Windows users, and not a lot t…

> Apple's mission has always been to make computing accessible to the masses (remember the slogan: "The computer for the rest of us"?), not to make it better for the elite few who already know how to use one. Except the masses buy Windows 10 laptops that cost $199 or whatever. The Mac has never been "accessible to the masses" because they won't pay Apple's prosumer prices...

The world is not divided into rich tech elites who can afford the best, and uneducated, poor people whose only hope to join the tech revolution is buying the cheapest of the cheap. There is a huge segment in between.

It's true that Macs have never been the cheapest, but many, many ordinary people buy them none the less. Why? Maybe because a lot of people need a computer, but hate using it. So they choose to spend a little more to get one that is a little less user hostile. That doesn't make them feel dumb. Maybe even delights them from time to time by the many small considerations its designers have made for them.

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Post by wmccullough »

wildmusings wrote: post #400

Personally, luxury laptop lines don't make sense for me at this point. There was a time when it was the only way to get decent hardware, but those days are long gone. Four years ago I spilled water on my 2009 17" MBP (RIP) and Apple wanted $1200 for the repair. Instead, I spent ~$1300, including three-year accident-protection insurance where they show up at your house THE NEXT DAY, on a Thinkpad T530 and I couldn't b…

My 15 inch MBP is still kicking ass four years later and I haven't had to replace much of anything yet. For me, honestly, when I get home from a long day of fighting with software dev on Windows and *Nix, I kind of want something that holds my hand. I don't want to think about anything. I also side load Windows to tinker when I want. I find that I may just be a lover of ecosystems.

In my daily home life outside of work, having an i7 over an i5 doesn't add value for me because I'm just messing around. I think it all comes down to need. I didn't get a MBP as a status symbol, I got one because I wanted a machine that ran macOS alongside Windows without building a Hackintosh. I do think plenty of college students get MBP's because everyone else has them when in reality, they won't need something like a MBP for their coursework likely ever.

That said, this is my last MBP. The changes Apple are making aren't exactly things I align with. I can only buy the pioneer argument so much. I think my next purchase is going to be a Thinkpad or a Surface Book Pro.

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